Mazda in 2008

[bringbacktheolddays]

This season has been a class act so far definatly the best since 2000 but reading in this weeks motorsport news, next season may be even better with Rick kerry coming back, Chris stockton is gonna run 2 new lexus's and motorbase are going to run 2 Leon's, ive heard Adam jones is coming back next season aswell plus all the rest and even some extras we may not know about. what are your thoughts and have you heard about any other newcomers to the btcc?? we may have 30+ cars on grid next season!! who knows!!

[bigred]

tis way early but there are bound to be new cars on the grid as the btc spec cars will be gone ( i think )

[bringbacktheolddays]

tis way early but there are bound to be new cars on the grid as the btc spec cars will be gone ( i think )
I was wandering that myself is this the last year for BTC spec cars??

[jiimmyy]

BTC spec are allowed till 2009 then it will solely go Super 2000

[bringbacktheolddays]

BTC spec are allowed till 2009 then it will solely go Super 2000
Its seems thats the way the WRC is going as well.(super 2000)

[mattlovestbs]

:D 30 cars should be possible.

all the main teams coming back, Arena might well be back, Clyde Valley Racing possibly.

should be good :D

[BTCCROCKS]

Lets see if we can get the likes of Renault, Ford, Volvo etc back :D

[laurat]

it would be great to see the big names coming back as mentioned and even better to see some new talent on the track!

[SBF]

Lets see if we can get the likes of Renault, Ford, Volvo etc back :D

Ford and Volvo are both owned by FORD the parent company so you won't get both.

[mattlovestbs]

we could well get Volvo, Audi and Merc's from the STCC :D

[bringbacktheolddays]

Ford and Volvo are both owned by FORD the parent company so you won't get both.
I think thats stupid they should still race against one another then its down to braging rights!!!

[McKendrick]

we may have 30+ cars on grid next season!! who knows!!

If there are too many cars we will end up with a situation like the clios. Didnt alan say a while ago that he would limit the entry to around 30 so everyone can race on all the circuits?

[bringbacktheolddays]

If there are too many cars we will end up with a situation like the clios. Didnt alan say a while ago that he would limit the entry to around 30 so everyone can race on all the circuits?
Notsure pal.

[b2uk]

im thinking.. works honda's may be appearing ;)
Possibly some Chevvy's too.. though in different hands than first thought of..

Wouldn't mind the new mondeo as a tourer.. vectra vs mondeo.. the classic battle back.. both with big cars :)

[bringbacktheolddays]

Wouldn't mind the new mondeo as a tourer.. vectra vs mondeo.. the classic battle back.. both with big cars :)
I like your thinking!! BLUE OVAL WOULD WIN HANDS DOWN!!

[Frantic]

i asked Mr Gow about the btc spec and he said that there allowed in til 09 but will probably fade out before that as they wont be competitive enough i cant find the post though!

And yes its way too early to talk about teams for next year, there were people febuarymarch this year saying they'll be in this year (those chevys remember etc.?)

I go by this rule.

see whose actually on the grid for raceday round 1!!!

Edit I found it (search button is my friend!!)

http://www.btcc.net/forum/showthread.php?t=3917&highlight=spec

[bigred]

i doubt how many btc cars will make next years gird, if u look at those on the line this year the newest would be the astra sports hatch run by arkas the integras are 3 - 4 years old the mg's 5 ish years some one will no doubt have chasis numbers birth certificates for each car but my point is the same as mr gows, the competive nature of btcc will mean that teams will aquire hand me down s2000 cars from wot ever source and run them sooner rather than later and at the end of the day we are looking at replacing 6 cars (3 intergas 1 astra and the 2 mg's)

[mattlovestbs]

i doubt how many btc cars will make next years gird, if u look at those on the line this year the newest would be the astra sports hatch run by arkas the integras are 3 - 4 years old the mg's 5 ish years some one will no doubt have chasis numbers birth certificates for each car but my point is the same as mr gows, the competive nature of btcc will mean that teams will aquire hand me down s2000 cars from wot ever source and run them sooner rather than later and at the end of the day we are looking at replacing 6 cars (3 intergas 1 astra and the 2 mg's)

John George's and Simon Blanckleys Integras are 06 Spec - so they;re 1 yr old.

i reckon we'll probs see 2 or 3 BTC spec out of 28+ cars

[dannybo]

i doubt how many btc cars will make next years gird, if u look at those on the line this year the newest would be the astra sports hatch run by arkas the integras are 3 - 4 years old the mg's 5 ish years some one will no doubt have chasis numbers birth certificates for each car but my point is the same as mr gows, the competive nature of btcc will mean that teams will aquire hand me down s2000 cars from wot ever source and run them sooner rather than later and at the end of the day we are looking at replacing 6 cars (3 intergas 1 astra and the 2 mg's)
I dont think its really an issue if the BTC-spec cars arent competitive. The reason being, even if a team acquired an S2000 car, there is no guarantee it would be competitive. Just look at Pinkney & Marsh for example.
Also look how long the Astra Coupes' hung around. I would think for many teams its about getting on the track for as little expenditure as possible, rather than trying to be ultra-competitive.

[b2uk]

I like your thinking!! BLUE OVAL WOULD WIN HANDS DOWN!!
Well it'd probably do a lot better than the focus they churned out a few years back.. :D

[b2uk]

Also look how long the Astra Coupes' hung around. I would think for many teams its about getting on the track for as little expenditure as possible, rather than trying to be ultra-competitive.

Pity Encke Sport didn't enter theirs.. would have given us a good comparison..

[bringbacktheolddays]

Well it'd probably do a lot better than the focus they churned out a few years back.. :D
That didn't count cause it was prouduction class and that was cak!!

[academygaz]

Looks like one of the Classis Touring Car Club driver's is planning a BTCC challenge next year with a Mazda.


4th June 2007
Stacy Vickers in discussion with TOCA for 2008 BTCC Entry
Stacy Vickers has been in contact with TOCA to explore the possibility of local homologation for the Mazda RX8. Unfortunately as the BTCC is now operating under FIA S2000 regulations after an internal meeting it was suggested that a rotary engine was deemed too far from the 4 cylinder piston engine based regulations, but they were open to the possibility of an RX8 utilising the Mazda 4 cylinder 16v engine. Not to be foiled (he has understandably become fond of rotary engines!), Stacy is currently evaluating some more straightforward alternatives. Asked what he would be aiming to achieve in the top line saloon category in the UK, he replied ?To become the nations favourite tubby racing driver.?. We will keep you posted!


20th July 2007
TOCA Investigation.
Since we can?t run the rotary engine in an RX8, we?ve been investigating the capability of a Mazda 3 in the BTCC instead. Trouble is of course that we would need to develop our own engine from scratch as there is currently no serious competition history with the car, and this would be a financial challenge to say the least. Mazda however have been in discussions with the FIA on the use of a Mazda 3 in the WTCC (World Touring Car Championship). We are having discussions next week around whether any of this knowledge will come to Mazda UK, and even better, onto us. So Stacy doesn?t have to hit the gym just yet, and can maintain his athletic physique with a carefully coordinated low impact regime of Dr Pepper, Haribo, and Curly Wurlys.

http://www.oddballracing.com/news.htm

[bringbacktheolddays]

I suppose running a mazda 6 would be nice!!

[Eunos]

Sounds good, The more the better

Just try not to repeat Mr Neal's Silverstone 94 Momment :D

[b2uk]

That didn't count cause it was prouduction class and that was cak!!

LOL .. I was refering to the 2005/2006 Focus s2000 Tourers raced in the WTCC

Production focus' were still a bit on the pants side though..

[bringbacktheolddays]

LOL .. I was refering to the 2005/2006 Focus s2000 Tourers raced in the WTCC

Production focus' were still a bit on the pants side though..
oh right thought we were talking BTCC:confused: :confused: :confused: I think the focus should just stick to what its CHAMPION at Rallying.

[SBF]

If Mazda Group get involved in touring car racing, it would definitely knock on the head any hope of Works Fords and Works Volvo teams....All owned by FORD

Similarly there is constant specultation of Chevvies running the BTCC, they would receive no works help as GM already have a UK works team ... Vauxhall, that's why there are no Opel Vetras in WTCC either.

[VkmSpouge]

The Mazda 3 is a nice little car. I hope Stacy Vickers can go ahead with his plan.

[bringbacktheolddays]

If Mazda Group get involved in touring car racing, it would definitely knock on the head any hope of Works Fords and Works Volvo teams....All owned by FORD

Similarly there is constant specultation of Chevvies running the BTCC, they would receive no works help as GM already have a UK works team ... Vauxhall, that's why there are no Opel Vetras in WTCC either.
its just pants they should just compete against each other any way!! Citroen and Peugeot did in rallying up to 2005!!

[bringbacktheolddays]

The Mazda 3 is a nice little car. I hope Stacy Vickers can go ahead with his plan.
Mazda 6 would be better!! Proper Salloon car!!!:) :) :) :) :) :)

[Marc W]

It's happened a few times in rallying, we also had Seats and Skodas a few years earlier. (Both VAG group companies)

[bringbacktheolddays]

It's happened a few times in rallying, we also had Seats and Skodas a few years earlier. (Both VAG group companies)
Yep thats right its all daft they should all compete against each other then its down to the old bragging rights of which is best car sort of thing!!

[AlexJD]

Ford and Volvo are both owned by FORD the parent company so you won't get both.

A hotfiel Focus racing a works S60 is perfectly possible

[Mondeo]

It's happened a few times in rallying, we also had Seats and Skodas a few years earlier. (Both VAG group companies)
I think you'll find they were in different categories.
Ford and Mazda raced in BTCC together in 93 and 94, were the Mazda's works entries though.

[bringbacktheolddays]

I think you'll find they were in different categories.
Ford and Mazda raced in BTCC together in 93 and 94, were the Mazda's works entries though.
Yes they were but ford did not own mazda then.

[Mondeo]

Ford only own a part share of Mazda and owned it long before then.

[bringbacktheolddays]

Ford only own a part share of Mazda and owned it long before then.
yep but the mazda and ford were works teams in 93 and 94.

[Mondeo]

Ford and Volvo are both owned by FORD the parent company so you won't get both.
That could all be changed by next year if Ford do decide to sell Volvo. They are to be deciding on this later in the year.

[bringbacktheolddays]

That could all be changed by next year if Ford do decide to sell Volvo. They are to be deciding on this later in the year.
I think ford has fell right behind vauxhall with all these other companys like jaguar and landrover costing them a fortune ford needs to get back to the good old days when the Cossies and rs turbos ruled the roads!!!

[Mondeo]

I think ford has fell right behind vauxhall with all these other companys like jaguar and landrover costing them a fortune ford needs to get back to the good old days when the Cossies and rs turbos ruled the roads!!!
With the current regs on emissions that isn't likely to happen. Rumours are the Focus RS has been scrapped. Ford aren't planning to bring out a petrol ST Mondeo, but there is to be a ST TDCi. Even the 2.0 petrol engine is to be replaced by a 1.6 turbo.

[bringbacktheolddays]

With the current regs on emissions that isn't likely to happen. Rumours are the Focus RS has been scrapped. Ford aren't planning to bring out a petrol ST Mondeo, but there is to be a ST TDCi. Even the 2.0 petrol engine is to be replaced by a 1.6 turbo.
how do vauxhall get away with all these high powered VXRS(with catosphorphic understear Quote j clarkson)then? and ford have scrapped the new focus RS i was gonna have one of them??

[Marc W]

I think you'll find they were in different categories.
Ford and Mazda raced in BTCC together in 93 and 94, were the Mazda's works entries though.

They were both in the full WRC at one point. Not sure of the year(s) I'll have to look it up, but I think it was sometime in the late 90's.

[bringbacktheolddays]

They were both in the full WRC at one point. Not sure of the year(s) I'll have to look it up, but I think it was sometime in the late 90's.
Thats right i think its just down to fat blokes who sit on Yauhts in the med all day!!!

[AlexJD]

ford have scrapped the new focus RS i was gonna have one of them??

Not long after the RS was 'scrapped' a very, very fast disguised Focus appeared at the nurburgring for testing...I don't think it's dead yet.

[bringbacktheolddays]

Not long after the RS was 'scrapped' a very, very fast disguised Focus appeared at the nurburgring for testing...I don't think it's dead yet.
Thank god for that??