Racing rivals

[pistonbroke]

Hello,


I saw the above on channel4 this morning (2.30am) and it was showing a review of the 2007 season; from Brands - Croft, with the rest of the races to follow. Unfortunately I did not record it and have failed to find the next show in the series in the tv guide. It looks like a good summary of the season, if anybody can find it in the channel4 listings please let me know when by posting a reply.

many thanks

b

[GatesGarage]

I think this show is on at 7:30am on Sundays. Of course on Channel 4.

[cos]

http://btcc.net/html/generalnews_detail.php?id=746

[thommo_fan]

its on at 7.55 this sunday folks, not 7.30.

it has never been repeated on Bravo though, i missed the first one thinking i could watch it on Bravo the next week and was very annoyed that i couldn't.

[SEATFreak]

Hello,


I saw the above on channel4 this morning (2.30am) and it was showing a review of the 2007 season; from Brands - Croft, with the rest of the races to follow. Unfortunately I did not record it and have failed to find the next show in the series in the tv guide. It looks like a good summary of the season, if anybody can find it in the channel4 listings please let me know when by posting a reply.

many thanks

b

Your not really missing much IMHO.

I like it when they chat to people not normally interviewed but that is all. Apart from the presenter. The race commentary sounds like it is aimed at a younger audience and the information aimed at a more neutral audience. Nothing that I haven't really heard before.

Still good to see any BTCC.

[laurat]

i watched it this morning for the first time this series and i have to say it was ok...didn't find it a nuisance like some of you on here have...it was based mostly on the rivalry between neal and plato this morning along with the success of giovanardi so far up until brands hatch...his house he's renovating in italy looks amazing by the way!!!

[Paterson]

I only caught the last five minutes of this, does anyone know if it is repeated (again) ;)

[Robbo]

well it was on the Sky Guide as last weeks bein repeated yesterday on Bravo so i put it on record and when i went to watch it this mornin it was some rubbish called Monster Jam. Whatever possesed them to repeat it on Bravo, Bravo sucks.

[laurat]

I only caught the last five minutes of this, does anyone know if it is repeated (again) ;)
i have no idea to be honest with you...ANYONE CAN YOU HELP!!!!!!

[SEATFreak]

I only caught the last five minutes of this, does anyone know if it is repeated (again) ;)

Depends which one you missed. If you missed todays it should be on in the wee small hours of Thursday or Friday about 2-3am.

[nicemms91]

I think it is. I forgot to record it last night/this morning so I'll have to set it.

[LesHayes]

interesting program but they very nearly put all their efforts into JP v MN and forgot FG

[CharlieJ]

I only caught the last five minutes of this, does anyone know if it is repeated (again) ;)
3:05 a.m Tuesday night / Wednesday morning. I'll have to remember to tape it then because I forgot to set the video last night.

[laurat]

interesting program but they very nearly put all their efforts into JP v MN and forgot FG
yip...that's what I said in a previous post on this thread...it was mostly about the rivalry between JP and MN, which we really already knew about

[Paterson]

3:05 a.m Tuesday night / Wednesday morning. I'll have to remember to tape it then because I forgot to set the video last night.

Thank you, will set the recorder :D

[adzerrancoon]

Hi Guys,
Have any of you been watching the racing rivals documentary series on channel 4 on a sunday morning? When I heard about it I thought that it would be really good, with lots of behind the scenes action, in the garage after races, and drivers disagreeing etc. Its a bit of a let down I find, because all you get is race highlights, meet a driver, and the odd interview, and John cleland explaining something. Put that all into half an hour, and showing two meetings, then it all feels a bit rushed to me. An hour per meeting would have been better, showing things like the drivers briefing, team de-briefings etc. I'm interested to hear what you all feel

[heidi1]

I agree when they done the programme on seat cupra swhen rob huff won it was alot better with the behind the sceens bits and bobs. but i am still sky+ing this racing rivals because it has got some interesting bits on it, just like what the different drivers like to do when they are not at the track. matt neals and jason platos comments are funny about each other to, to be honest it is soo pants it is good and i am enjoying watching it. :)

[adzerrancoon]

I agree with you Heidi, lets be fair there isn't enough coverage of the btcc on tv outside of the race day, so when you get something you have to watch it whatever sort of coverage you get

[CharlieJ]

Guys,
There's already been quite a bit of discussion about this.
http://www.btcc.net/forum/showthread.php?t=5093

[SEATFreak]

I have lost interest now.

[kezbabybabe]

It's okay, but it isn't long enough for my liking. It could easily be an hour long.

Hopefully the review DVDs will include a whole lot more coverage, as it's 7 hours long.

I will be watching next Sunday, as it is the last round and we were there, so it will be good to watch from the other side.

[1.9 TDI]

the biggest problem i have with it is that the championship is over and we all know what happened. I think it would have been better if it was a) longer and b) kept up with the series rather than starting when championship is already finished.

[kezbabybabe]

Yeah, it would have been better to show it as the series went on, though its nice to catch up on it now, as we didn't see some of it.

Plus it kills time while waiting for March to come around. :)

[laurat]

i missed half of it this morning, it was knockhill and thats when i won the VIP tickets

[kezbabybabe]

Oh Laura, that's a shame.

If you have Freeview or Satellite you can view it again on Channel 4+1 and hour later. Something to remember for next weeks episode at Thruxton.

I had missed about 15 minutes of it this morning, due to waking up a little late, so I caught the whole thing later on.

[laurat]

Oh Laura, that's a shame.

If you have Freeview or Satellite you can view it again on Channel 4+1 and hour later. Something to remember for next weeks episode at Thruxton.

I had missed about 15 minutes of it this morning, due to waking up a little late, so I caught the whole thing later on.
it was the last 15 minutes of the +hour that i saw...

[kezbabybabe]

Oh no, that's even worse!

Though looking back on it not much happened in the first half, apart from the amusement of watching a 6ft 6inch Matt Neal trying to get out of his car and his complaining about the crash with Mat Jackson. :p

[1.9 TDI]

Though looking back on it not much happened in the first half, apart from the amusement of watching a 6ft 6inch Matt Neal trying to get out of his car and his complaining about the crash with Mat Jackson. :p

damn I was bored by then and missed it.

[laurat]

Oh no, that's even worse!

Though looking back on it not much happened in the first half, apart from the amusement of watching a 6ft 6inch Matt Neal trying to get out of his car and his complaining about the crash with Mat Jackson. :p
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh he is such a wingebagggggggggggggggggg....

[kezbabybabe]

It would be nice if one meeting did end with Neal saying I had a cracking race, no problems at all. :p

But then I suppose the media only speaks to him when he's tangled with someone.

[laurat]

It would be nice if one meeting did end with Neal saying I had a cracking race, no problems at all. :p

But then I suppose the media only speaks to him when he's tangled with someone.
Don't be daft ... thats too much hard work for him!

[kezbabybabe]

Doesn't come from the "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all" school then. :p

[WSimons]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh he is such a wingebagggggggggggggggggg....

When have you ever heard Matt Neal winge this year??
Compared to Plato?

[kezbabybabe]

I can't comment on that, as I haven't seen all the TV footage this year. :o

I will say that Plato didn't complain once about his burns or use them as an excuse for not winning the BTCC.

I'm not starting any arguments, just voicing a view. :)

[laurat]

I can't comment on that, as I haven't seen all the TV footage this year. :o

I will say that Plato didn't complain once about his burns or use them as an excuse for not winning the BTCC.

I'm not starting any arguments, just voicing a view. :)
i absolutely agree ... and at least he was driving for his own team, on that last race and not someone elses, but hey...when the going gets tough, the tough gets going!

[ATF]

i missed half of it this morning, it was knockhill and thats when i won the VIP tickets

Sunday's programme (5 of 6) is repeated in the early hours of Wednesday morning at 2.35-3am - so set the tape on Tuesday night!

And the final programme is on Sunday at 7.25am don't forget!

[kezbabybabe]

I'm definitely going to be watching that! We were there so want to see the footage from the other side.

[Diddyman]

Why is there so much hatred on this forum aimed at certain race drivers?

Blimey guys, this is a sport! It's not the media that fuels these rivalries between drivers.. It's forums like these that do! How long will these comments go on for?

It happened! It's history! Get over it!

Let's look to the future!

Save the cheerleader, save the world!

[kezbabybabe]

Yeah the next season will probably be much of the same.

It wouldn't be BTCC without rivalry. :)

I'm not a huge fan of Matt Neal's though I'm sure there are Matt Neal fans on here that are not fans of Jason Plato. :D

[1.9 TDI]

I'm not a huge fan of Matt Neal's though I'm sure there are Matt Neal fans on here that are not fans of Jason Plato. :D

I'm not a matt fan either but whoevers fan you are, the btcc wouldn't be the same without both. They keep each other in check :p .

[Diddyman]

Yeah the next season will probably be much of the same.

It wouldn't be BTCC without rivalry. :)

I'm not a huge fan of Matt Neal's though I'm sure there are Matt Neal fans on here that are not fans of Jason Plato. :D

But it's not rivalry... it's hatred!

[kezbabybabe]

I certainly don't hate Matt Neal, just not a fan of his driving style.

I can't speak for the other members, maybe they do really dislike him as a person and a driver.

The editors are here to keep us all in check.

[WSimons]

I think the BTCC would lose alot of meaning of Close race if those two left, Ill admit, Im probably Neals biggest fan, Not quite a Plato fan exactly, But there would be a space missing in the BTCC if those two left!!

[WSimons]

But it's not rivalry... it's hatred!

Its a rivalry and hatred, But here is a question for you, Who was the 1st driver to shake Neals hand in 2006 after he won the BTCC Title??

[Robbo]

Plato! i dont think its hatred between those 2 i think its just passionate (or maybe extremely passionate) rivalry because they both wanna be winning and they both dont like being second and when they come up against each other theres usually a lot of dented panels and a lot of paint swapping.

[kezbabybabe]

They are probably both very similar in terms of passion and may be part of the reason that Matt moved to VXR.

It would be very difficult to be part of BTCC without being passionate, the same goes for the fans!

[Robbo]

well yeah, us fans are definately passionate :) am i the only one that gets really angry when somethin stupid happens?

I got angry and did somethin i shouldnt at Thruxton then the person threatened to beat me up cos of it :(

[WSimons]

well yeah, us fans are definately passionate :) am i the only one that gets really angry when somethin stupid happens?

I got angry and did somethin i shouldnt at Thruxton then the person threatened to beat me up cos of it :(

I think you told us about that before Robbo, But would you care to refresh our memorys please??

[CharlieJ]

Why is there so much hatred on this forum aimed at certain race drivers?

Blimey guys, this is a sport! It's not the media that fuels these rivalries between drivers.. It's forums like these that do! How long will these comments go on for?

It happened! It's history! Get over it!

Let's look to the future!

Save the cheerleader, save the world!
Welcome aboard Diddyman.

I'd like to think that 99% of us on here appreciate the racing and can discuss incidents without getting into personal arguments, but the Neal/Plato debate does get rather heated sometimes.

As a Team RAC / Colin Turkington supporter, my own position is:

I used to like both Neal and Plato. They've both always been very competitive, and they're both "robust" drivers - I've got no problem with that, being an Anthony Reid fan.

What began to annoy me about Matt (and still does) was the way he started to complain about other drivers all the time. Yes, he may have had an occasional valid complaint, but it seemed that not a meeting went past without him whingeing, and he pulled the same sort of moves that he complained about others doing. (No doubt there are diehard Matt Neal Fans who will disagree, but I've got no axe to grind and I'm trying to be objective about this).

I went off Jason a bit when his driving got too aggressive a couple of years ago - a little tap is one thing, but he was getting rather OTT. However his cynical sense of humour always amuses me, so I can't dislike him, and this year he does seem to have been a bit better behaved. Interestingly, on Racing Rivals, he said that there are heroes and villains, and he chooses to be more of a villain, which I think shows that he appreciates the entertainment side of things. (How was that for getting back on topic?;) )

[kezbabybabe]

Welcome aboard Diddyman.

I'd like to think that 99% of us on here appreciate the racing and can discuss incidents without getting into personal arguments, but the Neal/Plato debate does get rather heated sometimes.

As a Team RAC / Colin Turkington supporter, my own position is:

I used to like both Neal and Plato. They've both always been very competitive, and they're both "robust" drivers - I've got no problem with that, being an Anthony Reid fan.

What began to annoy me about Matt (and still does) was the way he started to complain about other drivers all the time. Yes, he may have had an occasional valid complaint, but it seemed that not a meeting went past without him whingeing, and he pulled the same sort of moves that he complained about others doing. (No doubt there are diehard Matt Neal Fans who will disagree, but I've got no axe to grind and I'm trying to be objective about this).

I went off Jason a bit when his driving got too aggressive a couple of years ago - a little tap is one thing, but he was getting rather OTT. However his cynical sense of humour always amuses me, so I can't dislike him, and this year he does seem to have been a bit better behaved. Interestingly, on Racing Rivals, he said that there are heroes and villains, and he chooses to be more of a villain, which I think shows that he appreciates the entertainment side of things. (How was that for getting back on topic?;) )

Nicely said. Well done! It's about driving skill at the end of the day.

[laurat]

I'm not a matt fan either but whoevers fan you are, the btcc wouldn't be the same without both. They keep each other in check :p .
absolutely hit the nail on the head there chuck ... and kezbabybabe, it is down to their driving skills and i think because both matt and jason are soooo competitive they clash ... but it's entertainment for us and jason wants to be the villain so hey, let them be!

As jason said, he's not in the sport to be liked or loved, it's his job and at the end of the day, if people dont like him, then he aint going to lose sleep over it!

I think thats a good motto for any of us to take on...

[kezbabybabe]

As jason said, he's not in the sport to be liked or loved, it's his job and at the end of the day, if people dont like him, then he aint going to lose sleep over it!

I think thats a good motto for any of us to take on...

Judging by the number of us that have Plato for champion in their signatures there are plenty here that do like him. Likewise for Matt Neal.

[laurat]

Judging by the number of us that have Plato for champion in their signatures there are plenty here that do like him. Likewise for Matt Neal.
they are definitely two likeable characters ...

[kezbabybabe]

Yeah, so it's only natural that the fans will clash from time to time.

I suppose we should all be mindful of the language we use, as there are members here who would read it as though it is quite strong language, like as happened.

[1.9 TDI]

they are definitely two likeable characters ...

thats an added bonus for them. have to say tho its perfect for me because i luv seats too.

hey check that out three posts in a row by plato fans with plato signatures

lets form the btcc-forum-plato-appreciation-society

[kezbabybabe]

lets form the btcc-forum-plato-appreciation-society

Now that sounds like a fantastic idea! :D

[laurat]

Now that sounds like a fantastic idea! :D
I second that ... bring it on!

[1.9 TDI]

absolutely hit the nail on the head there chuck

chuck??? :confused:



Now that sounds like a fantastic idea! :D

not quite sure how we'll manage that tho. but we'll find a way

[kezbabybabe]

Would we be allowed to create one in the Feedback forum? Like the off topic thread?:confused:

[kezbabybabe]

[QUOTE=laurat]absolutely hit the nail on the head there chuck[QUOTE]

chuck??? :confused:

Laura's friendly term for people.

Nothing to worry about :)

[1.9 TDI]

Would we be allowed to create one in the Feedback forum? Like the off topic thread?:confused:

please editor one? :) :cool: :p :) :cool: :p :) :cool: :p

[laurat]

[QUOTE=1.9 TDI][QUOTE=laurat]absolutely hit the nail on the head there chuck

Laura's friendly term for people.

Nothing to worry about :)
thanks kezbabybabe ... you obviously know the women's jargon ... yeah i've got a girl on my side!

[kezbabybabe]

[QUOTE=kezbabybabe][QUOTE=1.9 TDI]
thanks kezbabybabe ... you obviously know the women's jargon ... yeah i've got a girl on my side!
Evening Laura!

I remember you mentioning it to another forum member, so I thought I'd set the record straight before there was any further confusion. :D

[laurat]

[QUOTE=laurat][QUOTE=kezbabybabe]
Evening Laura!

I remember you mentioning it to another forum member, so I thought I'd set the record straight before there was any further confusion. :D
You are a little STAR! :p

[Jake]

Help needed, laurat and kezbabybabe.
Wifey and I missed Racing Rivals last Sunday, do you know when, where or if it's repeated this week ? Thanks.

[GatesGarage]

I agree with Diddyman. There does seem to be hatred on this forum toward certain drivers (Mainly Matt Neal and Jason Plato from there fans). I know from viewing a couple of meetings in person that all the drivers are friends with each other, you just need to look at Thruxton where almost all other drivers went over to see if Jason was ok. How ever friends dont exsist on the race track unless its your team mate with orders.

And we should remember that the media can edit what we see, so that they can make the "rivalry" between racers seem bigger.

And now back on topic: I agree the show could do with being longer as it is a bit of a squeeze. How ever what some of you said about the show still going on even though the season has finished, that will be because the people who make the show have to edit it to try and look the best.

[laurat]

gatesgarage i agree with what you see, but for every positive thing there is always a negative no matter what the issue is in life, and unfortunately this is how it seems to work ... but i suppose it is down to our control - if we couldn't speculate though about certain things, then life would be boring

[btccbryn]

you have to admit that without the plato and neal rivalry it would be a bit boreing wouldnt it,and in some ways make it even more boreing for both fans and the teams.

[laurat]

you have to admit that without the plato and neal rivalry it would be a bit boreing wouldnt it,and in some ways make it even more boreing for both fans and the teams.
yeah thats what i said ... we need a bit of rivalry to spur everything on ...