If Plato doesn't get 2nd, will it be because......?

[btccrox]

He didn't perform in the final 9 rounds?
The TDI was playing up......again?
Matt Neal kicked his ass?
Colin Turkington kicked his ass?
Other?

1. Gio ( no stopping him now )
2. Plato
3. Turks

I hope :cool:

[laurat]

Oh good thread, I honestly don't know where he'll finish what with the performance of the Seats but also as I think Turkington is doing too well to not finish in a good place.

[obsessivecompulsive2]

He didn't perform in the final 9 rounds?
The TDI was playing up......again?
Matt Neal kicked his ass?
Colin Turkington kicked his ass?
Other?

1. Gio ( no stopping him now )
2. Plato
3. Turks

I hope :cool:
I think he WILL get second,however i;ve been wrong before!!!!!:o

[Sparkz]

I think Mechanical Failure will stop him (Engine Misfires :D )
I wanna see:
Giovanardi
Neal
Turkington
:D

[btccrox]

I hope Plato brings home second but it seems about 6 people or more could mathematically take second so it won't be an easy ride for Jase. It's the car that'll let him down if anything but I really will scream if Neal takes 2nd lol. He hasn't impressed me at all this season but he's been in the points with little problems so he's in contention.

I expect more TDI problems :( maybe Matt Neal playing dirty to make it a Vauxhall 1-2 and maybe even Mat J having a good few rounds to get right up there.

[Sparkz]

Matt Neal playing dirty to make it a Vauxhall 1-2 and maybe even Mat J having a good few rounds to get right up there.

He hasnt been dirty all season.
What makes you think he should start now? :confused:

[topgear1]

He hasnt been dirty all season.
What makes you think he should start now? :confused:

croft??
rockingham??
a bit at oulton and donnington park

shall i go on????- to prove that he is a dirty driver:D :D :D

[obsessivecompulsive2]

He hasnt been dirty all season.
What makes you think he should start now? :confused:
He has,he nudged Sheddon off at Croft,although he said it wasn;t deliberate,the camera never lies!!;)

[Sparkz]

croft??
rockingham??
a bit at oulton and donnington park

shall i go on????- to prove that he is a dirty driver:D :D :D

Yea, But not as dirty as last year, None of the stuff was synical.

[Sparkz]

He has,he nudged Sheddon off at Croft,although he said it wasn;t deliberate,the camera never lies!!;)

Did Shedden complain to Neal or VXR?
Im sure that Shedden knew Neal didnt mean to nudge him off :(

[laurat]

going off topic a bit here but never mind - i've been more than impressed by neal this season so far ... maybe VXR has calmed him down a bit as he seems to be much more calm and collected - well done to the lad.

[GioFan]

going off topic a bit here but never mind - i've been more than impressed by neal this season so far ... maybe VXR has calmed him down a bit as he seems to be much more calm and collected - well done to the lad.

yeah i just hope they give him a 2nd year in the Vectra, because i think if they do he'll be even better with it next year. Just remember he's gone from the tiny Civic to the huge Vectra.

[laurat]

Giofan, I'm sure he'll get another year with vxr ... got my faith in him. I just hope he keeps up his 'being good' streak

[VR6Steve]

I sincerely hope that he does hold on to 2nd. However, I am still not going to write off the title for him just yet. You never know what might happen. :D

I'd really love to see Darren Turner creep up the table too.

Its also great to see Colin Turkington come good too.

[laurat]

Matt Neal isn't ruling himself out of the title ... i read about it on that website where 'cars collide'

[GioFan]

Giofan, I'm sure he'll get another year with vxr ... got my faith in him. I just hope he keeps up his 'being good' streak

he was fine before late 2006 when all the stupidness between him and Plato started.

[laurat]

he was fine before late 2006 when all the stupidness between him and Plato started.
maybe he needs to revert back then .... :rolleyes: :confused:

[Sparkz]

Werent Plato and Neal having a war of words at the start of the season?
Nothing has happened from that :D
Thank god :p

[btccrox]

Matt Neal isn't ruling himself out of the title ... i read about it on that website where 'cars collide'

Yes he thinks he can still win, bold statement. Maybe he's planning kidnap Gio for the last races.

[laurat]

Yes he thinks he can still win, bold statement. Maybe he's planning kidnap Gio for the last races.
please don't say that.
i'm beginning to be very careful on what i'm saying now as i feel i'm treading on egg shells.

[Sparkz]

All Gio needs is that bad luck.
One round, That all he needs, And its back open for anybody.
We seen last season Turkington took two 2nd places, So he could pull himself back in there.
Neal did good back then, Bar race 1 where there was an unfortunate coming together with Neal and Jackson.
Im not trying to jinx Gio, Im just saying anything can happen, Its like an unwritten slogan for the BTCC nowadays

[laurat]

of course anything can happen ... that's why each of us has so many opinions of who is going to walk away with the title as the championship is still wide open.

[btccrox]

please don't say that.
i'm beginning to be very careful on what i'm saying now as i feel i'm treading on egg shells.

you're allowed an opinion, and it wasn't all bad for banger racer chilton. He did get to take home a few stacks of tyres for his next few demolition derbys. :p

[Sparkz]

it wasn't all bad for banger racer chilton. He did get to take home a few stacks of tyres for his next few demolition derbys. :p

Why bring a thread were trying to keep quiet into this one? :confused:

[Eunos]

All 2nd Place means is your the First Loser - That's what Giles Villeneuve said :D

[mattlovestbs]

i reckon Plato will get 3rd.. Turks is on fire, very consistent, very smooth and Knockhill and Silverstone should suit the BeeEmm, so Turks 2nd :)

[heywood]

I agree with Turks 2nd and have to say he would deserve it.

[tigerwoods97]

The way I see it is that if SEAT can figure out how to stop the misfires then the TDi will be the quickest car on the grid and Plato will take second. ( Giovanardi is being too consistent )

If they dont then I think Plato will come 4th.

1. Gio
2. Turkington
3. Neal
4. Plato

[tankman40]

Hi

He'll get 2nd spot got faith in him!!!(not got alot of faith in the TDI at the moment thow) think SEAT should use this season as a 30 race testing session and come out all guns blazing for next year!!!:) :cool:

[btccrox]

They'll be strong next year, no way they want to let Gio get the BTCC triple for the first time since Rouse, i think :confused: . Surely Gio would want to win the WTCC after this, even though WTCC is half as much fun.

[TUMBLEWEED16]

its not gio's title just yet this is btcc where anything can happen and normally does as said all it takes is a bad meeting and not scoring points
there's a few drivers that are still able to win the championship

but gio in a good position too win it though, as for second i have no idea

[Samt]

matt neal hitting jackson off at snetterton now that could have been avoided and other shunts he has done and everyone is guilty of it at times. But hey thats touring cars your going to get that when everyone is running so close together.

On the topic, i think plato will probably get second but it will be tough with turkington driving well and neal hovering around behind giovanardi all the time.

[Sparkz]

matt neal hitting jackson off at snetterton

Neal infact didnt hit Jackson off, He nudged him around at the end of Esses, A bit like how Jackson done the same thing to Neal at the start of the Esses

[Samt]

ok but he still ended up off the track, it put him into a slide. I would hardly say Jackson mean to hit him, he just moved over to his rightfull line, but does that give Neal a right to shall we say nearly ruin someones race just because someone slightly touched him.

To be honest im not bothered thats touring cars for you, it happens but like everyone says somethings could be avoided.

[BTCCROCKS]

If Plato doesn't finish second. It'll be 1, or all of the following 3 reasons.

1: The Seat's are just getting to grips with Diesel

2: Matt Jackson is having a excellent season

3: Vauxhall have just been to good

Also, why are we mentioning Matt Neal, and what happened last year :confused: This thread was supposed to be about Plato

[mattlovestbs]

If Plato doesn't finish second. It'll be 1, or all of the following 3 reasons.

1: The Seat's are just getting to grips with Diesel

2: Matt Jackson is having a excellent season

3: Vauxhall have just been to good

Also, why are we mentioning Matt Neal, and what happened last year :confused: This thread was supposed to be about Plato

unfortunatly, Mat J wont get 2nd :(

I agree re the VXR bit, Gio and Matt Neal with T-oC have been the best possible line up...

Plato wont get 2nd simply coz the SEAT engine will do what its good at doing... giving up!

[SpeedRacer]

I reckon Plato will just get third from Turks and it will be down to misfires. Colin is on fire atm but he goes hot and cold so I reckon Turks will get 4th. How ever I think it will be a VXR one two. Matt Neal has been very consistant this year staying on the lead vauxhalls(either Gio or TOC) rear bumper. That to me is possibly the best stratergy he could have adopted as it will mean constant points.

ok but he still ended up off the track, it put him into a slide. I would hardly say Jackson mean to hit him, he just moved over to his rightfull line, but does that give Neal a right to shall we say nearly ruin someones race just because someone slightly touched him.

To be honest im not bothered thats touring cars for you, it happens but like everyone says somethings could be avoided.

And Mat J im guessing didnt mean to ruin Turners race?

[adzerrancoon]

It'll be because of the car I think. If he'd had reliability and the car had been sorted at start of season, he'd be there or there abouts

[BTCCROCKS]

unfortunatly, Mat J wont get 2nd :(

I agree re the VXR bit, Gio and Matt Neal with T-oC have been the best possible line up...

Plato wont get 2nd simply coz the SEAT engine will do what its good at doing... giving up!

Ah fair enough. I reckon if Jackson doesn't finish second, it'll be Neal or Plato. If Plato doesn't finish second, it'll be because of Neal finishing second

[mattlovestbs]

Ah fair enough. I reckon if Jackson doesn't finish second, it'll be Neal or Plato. If Plato doesn't finish second, it'll be because of Neal finishing second

dont bet on it.. i have a feeling we'll see Turks get 2nd then head off to WTCC... im speculating here!

[Samt]

Speed racer, Yeah i know hence why i said it happens thats tourings cars we were talking about what matt neal had done.

It doesnt matter move on, lets talk about the thread in hand.

[Sparkz]

dont bet on it.. i have a feeling we'll see Turks get 2nd then head off to WTCC... im speculating here!

How come you only want BMW drivers to go to the WTCC? :p
Maybe some WTCC drivers should come to the BTCC and learn how to drive rough and tumble stuff with our big boys :p

[Sparkz]

If Plato doesn't finish second, it'll be because of Neal finishing second

That would have been the idea right? :p

[simon1220]

Jacksons qualifying performances have been ruining his chances of good results in the first 2 races of the last few weekends so his chances of getting 2nd in the championship have been seriously reduced. He needs to sort the qualfying out and get a few wins to move back into contention.

My bet is Turkington. He is being consistent and reliable and will push all the way. I reckon Seats have a serious issue with there engines and this will hinder Platos chances of second and i reckon Turkington will nip past Neal for second. I hope a Beemer comes second and maybe Jackson get in top 5 as it could show to the management at BMW that if they entered a manufacturer entry they could challenge for the title straight away ;)

[mattlovestbs]

How come you only want BMW drivers to go to the WTCC? :p
Maybe some WTCC drivers should come to the BTCC and learn how to drive rough and tumble stuff with our big boys :p

simply coz i feel they have the most potential to do well ;)

[bigred]

wots curious about the seats to me is the fact the wtcc cars have run pretty much with a hiccup ( ok muller at macau cost them the wtcc). seat uk have wtcc engine tech's at their disposal to look at engine management, control unit probs etc and yet the problem has re occured.
for vxr hold all the trump cards as the season draws in toc in the 3rd car starting most weekends with no balast is well able to deny other top drivers maximum points and help miminmise any gains other could make on gio and neal, he can also be nominated for the team points if neal or gio have a mare in practice
turk isnt get as much help from jelly as he and wsr may have hoped so hes pretty much mixin it with the bog boys on his own and i could easily see him closing the gap on gio at knockhill

[hoppers30040]

Did Shedden complain to Neal or VXR?
Im sure that Shedden knew Neal didnt mean to nudge him off :(
well sparkz i was waiting to have my pic with matt and i herd the convo but strong lanugue come out of one of the bosses of vxr