Entry List

[Alfa Fan]

So far the entry list looks like this. is there any new deals or changes that are not in my list?, as I want a accurate prediction for my webpage!

James Thompson Triple Eight Vauxhall Astra Coupe
Yvan Muller Triple Eight Vauxhall Astra Coupe
Paul O'Neill Triple Eight Vauxhall Astra Coupe
TBA Triple Eight Vauxhall Astra Coupe
Gavin Pyper GA Motorsport Vauxhall Astra Coupe
Alan Blencowe GA Motorsport Vauxhall Astra Coupe
Anthony Reid West Surrey Racing MG ZS EX 261
Warren Hughes West Surrey Racing MG ZS EX 261
Colin Turkington Team Atomic Kitten MG ZS EX 260
Gareth Howell Team Atomic Kitten MG ZS EX 260
Tom Chilton Honda Racing Honda Civic Type-R
Matt Neal Honda Racing Honda Civic Type-R
Alan Morrison Honda Racing Honda Civic Type-R
David Leslie Petronas Syntium Proton Proton Impian
Phil Benett Petronas Syntium Proton Proton Impian
Spencer Marsh Beacon Motorsport Alfa Romeo 147
Tom Ferrier Beacon Motorsport Alfa Romeo 147
Tim Harvey Team Halfords Peugeot 307
Dan Eaves Team Halfords Peugeot 307
Carl Breeze Team Halfords Peugeot 307

BTC - P 2003

Norman Simon Edenbridge Motorsport BMW 320I
Michael Bentwood Edenbridge Motorsport BMW 320I
Luke Hines Gary Ayles Motorsport Alfa Romeo 156
Paul Wallace Gary Ayles Motorsport Alfa Romeo 156
Graham Saunders Gary Ayles Motorsport Alfa Romeo 156
Dave Allan Syncro Motorsport Honda Civic Type - R
James Kaye Syncro Motorsport Honda Civic Type - R
Simon Graves Barwell Motorsport Honda Civic Type-R
TBA Barwell Motorsport Honda Civic Type-R
Mark Fullalove Tech-Speed Motorsport Peugeot 306 GTi-6
Annie Templeton Tech-Speed Motorsport Peugeot 306 GTi-6
Nick Leason CMS Motorsport Ford Focus
Tom Boardman Team York City Racing Peugeot 307
Jim Edwards Jnr Team York City Racing Peugeot 307
TBA Vic Lee Racing Peugeot 307
TBA Vic Lee Racing Peugeot 307

[Godalmighty83]

Nothing very surprising there. I have heard a rumour of a privater ZR planned for mid season entry....i can only hope the rumour mill hasnt churned out a dud.

[Sim_Da_BTCC_Man]

If I may correct you. No VLR in BTC-T and Beacon are running MG's. The Alfa thing is one of your pipe dreams Jonathon :D .

BTC - T 2003

Driver
Nat. Team Car Status
James THOMPSON GB Vauxhall Motorsport Vauxhall Astra Coupe Confirmed
Yvan MULLER FR Vauxhall Motorsport Vauxhall Astra Coupe Confirmed
Paul O'NEILL GB Vauxhall Motorsport Vauxhall Astra Coupe Confirmed
Alan BLENCOWE? GB Gary Ayles Motorsport Vauxhall Astra Coupe Confirmed
Gavin PYPER? GB Gary Ayles Motorsport Vauxhall Astra Coupe Confirmed
Anthony REID GB MG Sport And Racing MG ZS Confirmed
Warren HUGHES GB MG Sport And Racing MG ZS Confirmed
??? ??? Team Atomic Kitten MG ZS Likely
??? ??? Team Atomic Kitten MG ZS Likely
Tom CHILTON GB Honda Racing Honda Civic Type-R Confirmed
Matt NEAL GB Honda Racing Honda Civic Type-R Confirmed
Alan MORRISON GB Honda Racing Honda Civic Type-R Confirmed
David LESLIE GB Petronas Syntium Proton Proton Impian Confirmed
Phil BENNETT GB Petronas Syntium Proton Proton Impian Confirmed
??? ??? Beacon Motorsport ??? Confirmed
??? ??? Beacon Motorsport ??? Confirmed



BTC - P 2003

Driver
Nat. Team Car Status
Tom FERRIER GB Edenbridge Motorsport BMW 320I Likely
??? ??? Edenbridge Motorsport BMW 320I Likely
Luke HINES? GB Gary Ayles Motorsport Alfa 156 Confirmed
Paul WALLACE GB Gary Ayles Motorsport Alfa 156 Confirmed
??? ??? Gary Ayles Motorsport Alfa 156 Likely
Dave Allan GB Syncro Motorsport Honda Civic Type - R Likely
??? ??? Syncro Motorsport Honda Civic Type - R Likely
??? ??? Barwell Motorsport Honda Civic Type-R? Confirmed
Simon GRAVES? GB Barwell Motorsport Honda Civic Type-R? Confirmed
Mark FULLALOVE GB Tech-Speed Motorsport Peugeot 306 GT-i Likely
Annie TEMPLETON? GB Tech-Speed Motorsport Peugeot 306 GT-i Likely
Nick LEASON GB CMS Motorsport Ford Focus Confirmed
Tom BOARDMAN GB Team York City/B&Q/Jet/Halfords (VLR) Peugeot 307 Likely
Jim EDWARDS JNR GB Team York City/B&Q/Jet/Halfords (VLR) Peugeot 307 Likely
Dan EAVES? GB Vic Lee Racing Peugeot 307 Likely
Tim HARVEY? GB Vic Lee Racing Peugeot 307 Likely

[MG-ZS EX260]

so, are beacon gonna run MG-ZS's? i really really really really hope so!
i want 2 see 6 MG's on the grid this year!

[Radisich Fan]

There will be No Peugeots and no Alfas AF!

[Sim_Da_BTCC_Man]

To be honest TAK seems unlikely too. Thats why I THINK Beacon could have MGs this year.

[thommo_fan]

whats happening to last years honda civics? someone surely has to run them.

what happened to B&Q JET york city racing, weren't they ment to be in the touring class this year and with the civics?

as far as i know VLR hasn't said he isn't running in the touring class this year, has he?

so we've got 14 confirmed in the touring class, maybe TAK which would make 16. thats 1 less then last year which is disappointing

[Sim_Da_BTCC_Man]

The line at the moment is that VLR will run 2 307's in BTC-P with an aditional 2 prepared by them for Team B&Q

[thommo_fan]

if VLR aren't running in the touring class this year then what will happen to eaves, harvey, not forgetting slight, and howell and turkington.
non of them have drives yet

[Sim_Da_BTCC_Man]

Eaves looks likely to go where VLR go, and VLR also have other projects so Harvey could go with them.

[Vauxhall]

will proton be running a 3rd car? thought there was some rumours a couple of months ago.


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[thommo_fan]

i don't think so

[Sim_Da_BTCC_Man]

I think is anyone else has a third car it will be MG. But with 14 confirmed I think there may be a fourth Vauxhall on the way. There we rummors about that aswell. I would rule Blundell out of any deal.

[thommo_fan]

does any1 know who has brought the barwell astras because i haven't seen them for sale anymore?

[Sim_Da_BTCC_Man]

Could be beacon or they could of had their day.

[thommo_fan]

they'd still be competitive in the right hands

[Sim_Da_BTCC_Man]

I don't think any new Independent teams could aford to run them to be honest.

[Radisich Fan]

It's annoying and a ****** shame

[thommo_fan]

if the teams could get good sponsorship then we'd see more indie teams on the grid but companies won't sponsor them.

[Radisich Fan]

See if I can get my dad so sponsor them ;) hehe

[Godalmighty83]

anyone see the lemans car sponsered by over 500 companies?

maybe we could sponsor a car in the same way, a car covered by a lour names. If enough people get behind it it would be pretty cheap. Would take a while to read the car though as it would just be covered by writing.

[Radisich Fan]

:D Sounds good! :) hehe

[Godalmighty83]

Iam serious, i dont know how much it costs to run a full team but you can write a lot of names on a car, iam talking several thousand, if each sponsor put in say £50 then thats a fair bit.

[thommo_fan]

i saw that car, it was black and white and jan lammers was won of the drivers.

[thommo_fan]

thats not a bad idea godalmighty83, if you had 5000 people that each paid £50, thats £250,000. i dunno if thats enough to run a car in the btcc for a season.

i think the le mans team charged £100 each.

[King Cleland]

Nah, that's not enough to run a team! Will need more!

If I pay extra, can I be one of the drivers? :D

[thommo_fan]

how much money have ya got?
i reckon it will take another £200,000 to run a team for a season!:D

[King Cleland]

Who you think you are? Eddie Jordan :p

[Vauxhall]

are peugeot 406 coupes defiently not there?

[Sim_Da_BTCC_Man]

Originally posted by Vauxhall
are peugeot 406 coupes defiently not there?

I think Vic Lee said he didn't want to run them

[King Cleland]

They are probably too big and Vic said we wouldn't see him run them again to me at Donny!

[thommo_fan]

i don't think it would be a very wise move to run them for a 3rd year.

[Carl Breeze fan]

Sim - Don't get yourself in trouble with the mods, but which site did you get that list off of?

[John]

I know there are other people as well who arent there but why does Simon Harrison keep missing out on drives? Whats the point of the Production Championship if the champion doesnt get a drive?

Morrison in 2001
Harrison in 2002 and 03??
Kaye is still in production this year??

What if there was some sort of affiliation with a team to run an extra car with whoever the reigning Production Champion is - a bit like the Vauxhall Vectra challenge and the Indy championship in the late 90s

Just seems a waste to me - esp when some drivers are (how can I put this diplomatically?) not as talented but still get the Touring drives.

By the way I know Harrison was a Touring driver in the past - but it was in that really poor Peugeot!

[MG-ZS EX260]

if u read westies soments about the 2003 grid, he sounds vry happy about it, he says 'im sure you will be pleased with the grid' and basically saying things are looking good in T class, good good!

[Sim_Da_BTCC_Man]

TOCA must be working in a deep underground hidden lare to secure a new manufacture or team by the sounds of things :D:)

[Craig Antill]

The Hondas have not been sold as they were too expensive.

Apparently a team in the STCC has purchased an ex-BTCC Astra - we're not sure but we're guessing it was one of the old Barwell cars.

[touringlegend]

I believe the championship will be good this year, but Westie would hardly reply that "the championship as all doom and gloom, and we are sitting on our arses doing nowt" would he...

[King Cleland]

Sounds quite promising! :D

[thommo_fan]

yeah westie said there are people working very hard behind the scenes to make the touring grid bigger, watch this space he said.

from that i presume they are trying to get a couple more indie teams to join the grid.

[AussieV8]

Down here we have the other problem that tere is too many teams and it goes on qualifing to a grid of 34..
Get some points and you are out of danger.

[thommo_fan]

i wish the btcc had that problem.
so how many cars are there in total before qualifying?

[mark]

Personally, i cant see Eaves and harvey being that happy about running in Production, how would you like to take a step down after running in the main arena for 2 years?. Surely they must have some BTCT deal up their sleave? :confused:

[King Cleland]

Originally posted by thommo_fan
yeah westie said there are people working very hard behind the scenes to make the touring grid bigger, watch this space he said.

from that i presume they are trying to get a couple more indie teams to join the grid.

We can read!

I hope more teams turn up, otherwise the Hilton Hotels Cup for Indies will be very thin on competitors (2) :(

[King Cleland]

Originally posted by mark
Personally, i cant see Eaves and harvey being that happy about running in Production, how would you like to take a step down after running in the main arena for 2 years?. Surely they must have some BTCT deal up their sleave? :confused:

I wouldn't be happy, can't see them being!

I know Eaves was pretty upbeat about the 307's and looking forwards to this year at Donny! :(:(

[John]

Not just Dan and Tim but presumably Vic Lee and the others as well

[thommo_fan]

if eaves had a competitive car he could run at the front of the field with the likes of muller, thommo, reid etc etc.

[AussieV8]

Is there a shortage of sponsorship $$ or the lack of cars.
We talked about the Lexus in another thread so where are they. Wouldn't you think that another Jap company would like to get their foot into the door and wipe the smile of the Hondas if I owned Toyota,Mazda or Mitsibishiu I would seriously look at it cause it sells cars on Monday.

[John]

Originally posted by thommo_fan
if eaves had a competitive car he could run at the front of the field with the likes of muller, thommo, reid etc etc.

Well I think he proved that in 2000 when he came into class B and out performed Morrison - maybe Morrison was cautious as he was leading the championship and it was the end of the season but theres no denying the statistics - took part in 2 rounds (4 races) and finished 5th in the championship with 53 points, and at least once he let Mprrison through to score extra points.

Totally deserves to be up there in Touring Class.

[King Cleland]

:D I am glad, I like Eaves!

[tvgod]

Originally posted by AussieV8
Is there a shortage of sponsorship $$ or the lack of cars.
We talked about the Lexus in another thread so where are they. Wouldn't you think that another Jap company would like to get their foot into the door and wipe the smile of the Hondas if I owned Toyota,Mazda or Mitsibishiu I would seriously look at it cause it sells cars on Monday.

Toyota are focused on F1; Mitsubishi's motorsport division has just got a new boss who said on hios first day: "we aren't interested in doing touring cars...anywhere"; Mazda are involved in the Formula Woman thing (if it happens) in 2004.

[King Cleland]

Mitsubushi have never been really touring car people though have they apart from 1990 and 1991 in BTCC

[touringlegend]

Even at that I believe they were privateer cars.

[King Cleland]

Yer, driven by Mark Hales, they weren't much cop!

[touringlegend]

That's right.

Was it involved in that massive pile up at Donington in 91? or 92? remember when Cleland and Allam both went off together into a car in the gravel ? As far as i remember..

[King Cleland]

Yep! in 1991 at the Old Hairpin, where Allam rigged his neck!

[John]

Yeah - that demonstrated as much as any incident the need for clearing away cars that have gone off - and why we now have the safety car!!! ;)

[King Cleland]

Yes, it certainly did!

[John]

Find it unbelievable nowadays when u watch old races that they just left cars on track where anything could hit them.

[King Cleland]

O'neill was very close to hitting Fullalove's car at Round one last year though!

[AussieV8]

Regardless of what the other manufactures are doing it would help them in the sales race to promote there 4cyl's. Mitsubishi are trying very hard to get into the V8 series with a Magna running a Crysler V8 and transforming it from front wheel drive to rear but it aint washing well with the others.
Thats why we have safety cars now it was the same here

[John]

Mitsubishi seem to prefer rallying to ciruit racing (although with them taking a year out of rallying to develop the Lancer maybe there is some scope to get the name on track in some capacity).

What happened to the Charisma's that were run in the Production class? They were disadvantaged with a 1.8 engine though thinking about it.

[AussieV8]

Why does Honda have to different models in the proddies.
Civic and Accord. :confused:

[Sim_Da_BTCC_Man]

Originally posted by AussieV8
Why does Honda have to different models in the proddies.
Civic and Accord. :confused:

They are not works run. They are just what the teams in the proddies can afford to run. None of the teams in the proddies have works involvement (other than the fact the syncro guys all work for honda). The manufactures cant stop the fact there are two types of car racing and infact its proberbly a PR dream.

[John]

Its just the age of the cars - the Integra was the sporty car, but then the Accord became a more competitive car as it could be developed more (the situation in 2000) and now the Civic has been introduced and is more competitive than the Accord. However if a team cant afford to run the latest car (or there arent enough available) then they'll have to have an older model. Therefore both (or all) are represented.