The Official "Unofficial Booing Of Muller When He Collects Title At Oulton Petition"

[Nikh_mg]

Everyone write here is you willbe at Oulton Park and will boo Muller when he takes the championship....I AM serious bout this(motorsport brings out strange feelings dont it lol :D)

Also general heckeling in race and at the pit-lane walkabout at both of the remaining meetings would be welcome



"Fight the power man"
"save the tree's"......maybe not.....:p

[GEDsjt]

i'm in and i know my mate nikki p and her dad will be. i need to work on my dad he actually thinks muller should win. i think its time to update his medication.

[Jamie P-E]

Oh yeah count me in, Amanda are you in?:D

[Nikh_mg]

Lol good good, i'll be there with my MG cap n flag when i go to where he is at the pitlane walkabout, hopefully there will be a lot of anti-Muller fans where I am

Is it the long track or the Fosters circuit at Oulton? cos I want to be at the best place for overtakin incase there is an incident, I was at Fosters last time and it was the long track so it wasnt that good

[Jamie P-E]

They are using the Island circuit which is the one with the really tight hairpin at he end of the back straight.

[McKay]

yes, i will be booing him. i will ask him to autograph a picture of him saying "im a hipocritt"

[Nikh_mg]

I've got a good idea......Get Thommo and Pauls autographs, and if Muller asks if you want his, say...."dunno, depends if your gonna strangle me if i say no" :P lol

[McKay]

i will stand back a bit and say that :p

[kestrel]

I'm definitely in.:D :D

[Sim_Da_BTCC_Man]

I heard there will be a flag burning?!

[Le Mans]

Sorry... I am a motor racing fan. I want to see great motor racers racing. I do not really see your point. If you want Anthony Reid to win the BTTC title by a petition because Yvan Muller grabbed his collar then I think you have lost your way. If you want to see Thompson win by banning Muller then I see your point but cannot agree with you. As I said, I am a motor racing fan and have this old fashioned theory that the quickest driver deserves to win..... Sorry about that kids!

But! BTCC grabbed the attention of the media!!! Just like Mike Tyson!

[MAINEMAN]

Well said le mans,i too am a motorsport fan and love the btcc i support the series not try to ruin it.I have respect for all drivers and of course have my favorite drivers but i can say i don't hate any of them because they all contribute to the series.Ivan muller deserves to win the championship because he has been the best driver and the points table does'nt lie.I think alot of peoples problem in relation to this seems to be the fact because he's french which is very sad to see indeed.

[Tim.Lad]

Grow up guys !!! if Muller wins this year i will be giving him a round of applause the guy is a class driver... and deserves to win as much as any of the other guys, the guy shows some passion for a sport we all love and you jump on him like a pack of wolfs whereÃ*s the fairness in that you should be ashamed of your self, or is this just a race thing do you just want a British driver to win ?? just think about what your doing before you go and boo Muller, do you want a British driver to win and a driver with talent and consistency..

[runnyhunny]

Yeah, come on people!

What on earth are some of you thinking?!

I've always appreciated the fact that at the races, we can cheer for anyone we like, and it's a nice and safe atmosphere. (unlike, for example, at a football match, where fans are physically separated).

Getting involved in booing, or other such nonsense, just pushes the supporters in the wrong direction.

Please don't do it - and grow up!

[Toto]

So some of you think Yvan Muller a disgrace and are going to boo him at Oulton. It is not Yvan Muller who is the disgrace here ...

[Nikh_mg]

If you want Anthony Reid to win the BTTC title by a petition because Yvan Muller grabbed his collar then I think you have lost your way.


When did I say anything about wanting Reid to win the title???? I just think that someone who acts so discracefully doesnt deserve to be champion, you say we would be push supporters the wrong way, well look at the great example Muller is setting for all the kids karting wanting a career in motorsport. Basically chill out, if you want to cheer Muller for being a "great champion" do that, I on the other hand think he's the least great champion for years. Tarquini didnt use violence, Cleland didnt, Biela didnt, Menu didnt, Rydell.....well he did against Reid because of something so minor, Aiello didnt, for a second time Menu didnt, Plato didnt, and Thomo didnt...they all won fairly ontrack aswell....the latter being victims of Mullers driving but still beating him

There rant over
Leave my petition alone!

[Nikki P]

Do we not all think this has got a little bit out of hand?! As far as I was concerned I thought this particular thread was a little bit of fun, some people will boo and that's their prerogative to do so, end of story.

As for all this about people not wanting him to win it because he is French. Please, who needs to grow up now?! I have never been a fan of Muller and it most certainly has NOTHING to do with his nationality. It has more to do with his attitude and manner. As I have stated in a previous post I do not dispute he is a very talented driver who is more than capable of winning this championship, but the pressure seems to get to him towards the end of the season and leads to the kind of behaviour we have been discussing and is what I personally don't like. I've never been a fan of Phil Bennett either so do I have a problem with people from the midlands too? The only people who are turning this into a racial issue are those accusing others of doing so. At the end of the day, we are all entitled to our own opinions and throwing insults and veiled accusations of racism is a bit much IMO.

This is not directed at anyone in particular as both sides of the arguement seem to have got slightly carried away at times, so how about we agree to disagree?

[Amanda]

I agree with Nikki, I also thought this thread was a bit of fun but it seems to have got out of hand.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, the forum should be a fun place for everyone to disscuss the drivers, races and incidents. Think how boring it would be if we all supported the same driver and agreed with each other all the time.

I think we should agree to disagree.

[MG Freak]

So which driver's going to knock him off the track this time!! :D

[JLD]

It may not need someone to knock him off the track.

He may find that a stray onion/french loaf/garlic bulb gets caught under the brake pedal causing him to overshoot on the first corner.:D

[Croft fan]

It sounds like you anti Muller fans are going to burn him like a witch.
Muller has always been the diplomatic one, when he lost the title last year he sais well done to Thompson and then went on about saying next year.... Or if there has been a accident then he would say yeah it was aviodable but thats the way it goes.
It seems to me Reid is the bad driver, its just he dose not have the gutts to do anything about it. remember when Rydell grabbed him, Ried was shaking in him boots when he got out of his car.

But hey come on guys and gals, we have all had a laugh about it, now is the time to get over it and watch some good racing.
See you at Donington, where I will be there to shake Mullers hand.

[Nikh_mg]

It seems to me Reid is the bad driver, its just he dose not have the gutts to do anything about it. remember when Rydell grabbed him, Ried was shaking in him boots when he got out of his car

Not trying to respark the argument but are you saying it shows that drivers have guts if they assault another driver? And i'd be shakin too if i'd been atacked by a bald mad swede :D

[Bill]

This is the most ridiculous, absurd and pathetic thread that I have ever seen! It gives a strong indication of the kind of people all the anti-Muller fans are, and it's not a pretty one:

First, take someone who only has a very weak idea of what makes a great racing driver, then add in to the pot a bit of unrelenting bitterness with a pinch of xenophobia, and you're done.

Like it or not, Yvan Muller is a top racing driver, and, along with Reid, one with international recognition of his class. Once upon a time, all drivers had the same kind of levels of accolades, which is what made the BTCC what it was. The only thing that keeps the BTCC from looking like a glorified club series is one of the sole remaining superstars.

Sure, Muller's character may not endear him to everyone, but at least he keeps things interesting; saying what he thinks. Through all that he has faced in the championship he has never lost his temper before, yet one uncharacteristic action and the anti-muller camp go into overdrive! Anthony Reid had forgiven him, and they have shaken hands over it.

No one deserves this title more than Mr Muller. After 6 years of either being a star of the midfield, or in the last two years, the bridesmaid, he has always impressed me with his class. He is a clean, fair racer who has absolutely trounced James Thompson this year. Had it not been for reliability, he probably would have won the title last year too.

It worries me that when one driver is a class above the rest, and has thoroughly deserved to be in the title position he is in, so many can't appreciate it. How is the championship ever going to return to former glory with british club racers: they don't impress the everyday fans, and ensure a lack of international prestige. If muller, the lone overseas driver leaves, almost all outside interest will be eradicated in the championship, making it less appealing to manufacturers, sponsors etc.

Shame on you lot (excepting Yvan's defenders of course) as Muller may have not acted sensibly, but as he has been quoted to say, he is only human. Can't you, like Reidy, forgive his slight faux pas and appreciate him for what a class driver (and class champion to be) he is.

[Paul Rayner]

Everyone needs heroes and villains in motorsport. If you want to hate Muller for his attack on Reid, and boo him, then fair play to you, go for it if it makes you enjoy yourself more. If you want to hate Reid because you think the move he made on Muller was over-optimistic, then feel free to boo him.

But whatever you do, please respect other people's opinions. If you see someone supporting a driver you don't like, just ignore it, and cheer your favourite drivers even more.

In the past I've booed drivers, I've made anti-driver banners, and thoroughly enjoyed myself doing it - it did no harm really. Now though, I just prefer to cheer when my least favoured drivers get beaten than boo them when they do well. Each to their own

[Sim_Da_BTCC_Man]

No offence people, but please let it be. Its starting to get rather irritating with constant Muller bashing. Sure he did something wrong, but he's human for crying out loud. If you did something wrong would you want someone starting a pettition against you. :rolleyes: .

Yes we feel agreved that his punishment may not be adiquate, however this is getting rather silly and out of hand for one mistake. Your more than welcome to exersise your right to free speach, and of course you can feel passionate about a subject, but there are points when this can get out of hand.

[Nikh_mg]

I didnt intend to get everyone so p****d off by starting this thread, you guys take life waaay to seriously, I made a topic basically sayin' sorry but still people think 'they know best'


I agree with Paul Rayner, if ya want to boo someone do it, if ya dont, shut up! I havent insulted anyone who likes Muller but still you insult me for voicin my opinion.....I tell you, Britain is a Dictatorship, ya cant say what ya want without bein metaphorically shot

[The Stig]

Think it's time, now we've all calmed down from Monday, to consider our thoughts and actions. I ain't a Muller fan for different reasons and stood feet away from him on Monday and was absolutely livid at his actions. People taking part in a some booing campaign might do themselves more harm than good. Better to write to the MSA and seek clarification of their interpretation of events and the punishmenment meted out.

[Nikh_mg]

I agree Stig, I'm only gonna boo him if he does anything wrong and laugh if he loses out at Oulton, thats what I always do :D Boy was the first Brands meeting when he went off infront of us :D

[mark]

I too find this thread a bit unbelievable. :(

Come on guys, we all like a bit of rivalry and we all have our favourite drivers, but i feel it's a bit childish to set up a thread to try to petition people into booing one paticular driver beacuse of some shifty antics.

And the comment about burning the flag, I presume you mean the French one, well thats going to be really inviting to everyone watching in France and Europe, particularly if it happens to get caught by a camera. Not an iamge the BTCC wants to portray i think.

Cheer and necessary boo at moves on track, but lets not be deliberate and venge war against Yvan, lets not turn Motorsport into a Footabll rivalry/hooliganism atmosphere.

My point made, everyone else entitled to theirs.

[Moderator 1]

Another thread that has got out of hand and has to be closed.