Ginetta Junior Champion? [Archive] - BTCC

Eunos

14th Jul 2010, 11:59 PM

Jake Hill im Hoping, call me Bias but i like the Surname Hill (Surname of my all time Favourite F1 Driver :p)

Tom Ingram and Louise Richardson seem to be the only other Legitimate Contender's

Sarah Moore has been somewhat Dissapointing This year.. Not really adapting to the New car it would seem..
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Looking at their Ages this will be Richardson's only shot at the Title as she will be too Old for the Series next year unless it starts before March 25th

Ingram and Sarah Moore Could get 1 More Season in if they wanted to..

Suppose we will have to wait and See..

I can see Jodie Fanin being an Odd's on Favourite in '11

simon1220

15th Jul 2010, 11:56 AM

I really want Louise Richardson to win, without doubt one of the nicest drivers in the series. Never been fond of Jake Hill myself, so hope he doesnt win. Always back the underdog :)

Pato

15th Jul 2010, 04:12 PM

Finlay Ratcliffe :D

Think it'll be Jake, would like to see Louise win it though.

Jody Fannin is my prediction for next years title, that boy can drive.

bradc3

15th Jul 2010, 08:45 PM

simon1220

15th Jul 2010, 10:01 PM

yeah he sure can he has shown some great performances this season and i think if he stays with the championship jody will win it next year
i was expecting more from sarah and david moore and even chris swanick who all preformed great in last years series
i think jake hill will win even though i would like jody fanin to win!

David Moore has done well this year, Sarah just hasnt adapted to the car all too well and Swanick has had a tough year with some real bad luck.

bradc3

16th Jul 2010, 05:28 PM

david done well :S strange because he hasnt really got the points everyone thorght he would get

simon1220

17th Jul 2010, 10:53 AM

david done well :S strange because he hasnt really got the points everyone thorght he would get

Fifth in the standings, picked up 4 podiums. In a very very competitive series, thats still a very good showing. What were you expecting from him?

Reidy_fan

17th Jul 2010, 07:39 PM

rev limit

17th Jul 2010, 08:49 PM

Hello everyone,apologies for not being on here for ages!
Reference everyone's kind words about Jody Fannin;all i can say is that he has responded fantastically well to my in-car instruction on various trackdays,it is his 1st year in cars(straight out of Junior rotax karting,top contender),has an abundance of driving talent,but most impressively conducts himself out of the race car in a professional manner.He is a pleasure to work with.I myself really enjoy testing his G40,it is a lovely car to drive and is great fun!
Unfortunately,he will be 17 in september this year,therefore will not be able to do a 2nd junior year,2011 programme is undecided at present.
Reference Jake Hill:really should win it this year,he is great mates with Stefan and has speed and ability....just needs to address a few 'personal' things around him to mature into the complete package. and Simon is ace!
hope my views are of some interest,
cheers,
CH

kezbabybabe

17th Jul 2010, 09:05 PM

Thanks Chris for the personal insight, it's very welcome. Good to see that you are still around. ;)

simon1220

17th Jul 2010, 09:18 PM

think jake hill has been the class of 2010, i am still not convinced about sarah moore TBH I dont rate her, okay she won the title last year but there wasnt a lot of competition also everyone has had to adapt to the new car and the moore's did a heck of a lot of testing more than most so she should have hit the ground running

Bit harsh really, she won the title, so clearly has talent, and it was quite competitive last year. I cant vouch for how much testing she did, but the change of team during the pre season couldnt have helped. But yeah, she hasnt adapted to the car well, or just not done well this year, but shes still a good driver.

Pato

17th Jul 2010, 10:11 PM

Bit harsh really, she won the title, so clearly has talent, and it was quite competitive last year. I cant vouch for how much testing she did, but the change of team during the pre season couldnt have helped. But yeah, she hasnt adapted to the car well, or just not done well this year, but shes still a good driver.

She also has had a lot of bad luck, other drivers have crashed into her and ruined her races quite a bit. I really rate her as a driver.

Really would like to see Tom Ingram do well too, seems like a nice lad. Louise Richardson seems really likeable too. Jake Hill is most likely to win it as I said before but in most of the interviews I find him to be pretty arrogant, seems to be certain that he's the best driver on the grid.

Finlay Ratcliffe imo shouldn't be on the grid, there should be a rule that you need some karting experience to enter the championship. It isn't safe for him to be racing on these fast circuits with no driving experience, he causes a lot of accidents too which isn't really fair on the other drivers on the grid. Not a fan of these kids with rich parents who just jump straight into a car when they haven't even driven a kart before. But hopefully he will have gained enough experience this season to be competitive next.

Reidy_fan

18th Jul 2010, 11:25 AM

there has been suggestions elsewhere that the ARDS test needs tightening up as atm anyone from the age of 14 can sit a test, get a national B license and go racing without any prior testing. all the ards does is prove that you can drive at a resonable pace round a track without binning it, no training on how to cope when there is 20 cars around you

Finlay is not the worst I have seen there has been quite a few with that wee black cross on a yellow background that are incidents looking for a callsign but it is part of the learning process, every driver has to start somewhere be it in karting, stock cars (you can race full contact minis on the short ovals from the age of 10) or race cars.

Chris, good to see you back on here, your views are very much appreciated and missed, hear that your band is booked for friday night marshals party at the britcar, should be good:D

bradc3

19th Jul 2010, 06:15 PM

that sucks i was kinda hoping to see fanin taking the title next year well i hope he gets into clio cup or something like that

rev limit

26th Jul 2010, 10:17 PM

Reidy fan; band booked? really? when/ dont have that one in my diary!

Reidy_fan

27th Jul 2010, 08:49 AM

chris, it was talked about on another forum getting your lads to do a gig for us marshals either on the thursday night or friday night. dunno where at sillystone. britcar is 1st to 3rd of october. personally i cant see it being friday as there is qually between 8pm and 10pm

simonmhill

28th Jul 2010, 12:26 PM

Interesting to see the discussion as to 'Who Will Be Ginetta Junior Champion in 2010'

Lot's of fans for Jody - rightly so he's done a great job in his first year - bit like Jake last year - and as many of you have pointed out he would probably win it if he could do it again next year.

Tom Ingram and Louise Richardson are both also doing a great job - it's a tough season for everyone learning the new cars, and they are VERY different to drive and set-up to the old cars, they really reward a fine balance of commitment, i.e. carrying speed into the corner, with precision and smoothness - in some ways you need to drive them like a single-seater, but without the advantage of loads of aero etc....notice how Alice Powell, Mitchell Hale, Dino Zamparelli and of course Nigel Moore have adapted so well to single-seaters.

Anyway, Tom Ingram and Jake are on top at the moment as they've been the most consistent drivers - Jake with six Wins, eight Poles and six fastest laps, Tom with one Win and lots of podiums - so logically if it continues like this it looks likely to be between the two of them but there's a long way to go and of the front runners both Tom and Jake are up against it the most budget-wise.

Just want to say on behalf of Jake and myself thanks to everyone's support for him - he jumped in the car at Thruxton and took double-pole, a lap record and a Win, all thanks to Mike, Mary and Kieren at Tollbar getting him out there after a sponsor pulled out five days before...and I think he's proved he was worth a gamble.

Shame to hear that someone thinks he's arrogant....I suppose cos he's the only one who's Won on Sunday's so far this year he's the only one that's been interviewed he might have sounded a bit 'samey' but I think if you got the chance to chat with him you'd realise that having had to miss half of last year due to funding issues, he's VERY grateful for the chance he's got and knows that the only way he's got a chance of a career in this fickle sport we love is by Winning consistently....with it you have to try and find the fine balance between confidence and arrogance...most of the time I think he does but I'll have 'words'....!

If you are a fan thern thanks, if not that's fine too we all need a bit of variety, but if you are at a TOCA meeting and want to say hello to either of us please come and introduce yourselves....I need some support cos I've got Louise Goodman's role for the next three races so it's a bit of a challenge.

Thanks for your kind words Chris too....

Look forward to Snett - may the best man (or girl!) Win....!

Take Care

Simon

kezbabybabe

28th Jul 2010, 07:25 PM

Thanks for coming on to chat to us Simon, I think you fill Louise's shoes just fine (not literally of course) so I'm looking forward to catching the coverage with the two of you at the helm! :D

Wookieboy

29th Jul 2010, 12:58 PM

Great to hear from you Simon, got to say I think your boy will get the job done this year.

Slightly off topic here, but are you being lined up to replace Ben Edwards next season as the voice of the BTCC?!! Because rumour has it that Ben is being lined up to replace Jonathan 'Boring' Legard on BBC's Formula One coverage.

Keep up the good work, you and Jake!!

simonmhill

29th Jul 2010, 02:28 PM

Hi Wookieboy

Re your question about whether Ben may be replacing Jonathan Legard. As far as I know it's just a rumour - everyone has their likes and dislikes when it comes to commentators and presentors - and co-commentators.

Most people - including me - seem to think Martin Brundle is awesome, simply the best in the business - and perhaps because of that Jonathan gets a harsh time compared to him. I think that the Beeb are happy with him - when I last spoke with Lee McKenzie (who I used to work with on A1GP in the Pit Lane) she said that the team were pretty solid, so I doubt if it would change.

It's very flattering to be thought of as being able to step into Ben's shoes - Ben is a very old friend, we used to work together as Instructors at the Racing School at Brands some 20 years ago - and he got me into commentary alongside him for Motors TV back in 2003.

Personally I think he's one of the best commentators in the business - he is incredibly knowledgable - was a Champion driver in Formula First in 1987 (ahead of Kelvin Burt and Shaun Hollamby...!) and in Caterham Vauxhall in 1992 before focussing on his commentary - and has a great style of delivery - and is the most professional guy I've ever worked with...he has done F1 before with John Watson for Eurosport so has the credentials....he would be fantastic but I think things will stay the same for now.

I have commentated on TOCA alongside Ben as a one-off in 2007 at Thruxton when Tim lost his voice (like me at Thruxton this year!) and would love to do it one day if the circumstances are right.

However at the moment I will be covering for Lou who's covering for Steve for the next three races which I'm really looking forward to...then back in the commentary box for the last two rounds...plus I'm doing the WRC and other stuff for Motors TV (Finland this weekend - mega!) and this weekend also doing the SEAT Eurocup, GP3, GP2 and Porsche Supercup....so my voice will be f***ed by Sunday!

Thanks for your kind words re Jake....he's really looking forward to Snett because he had his first race there in the Winterseries in 2008 but hasn't raced there since cos we had budget problems and missed the second half of the year...so hope he'll be on it cos it's ****** close in the Championship.

Please come and say Hi if you're at any races (to either of us).

Take Care

Simon

bradc3

29th Jul 2010, 02:29 PM

jake hills car is by far one of the best looking the design is great i also like jody fannins
i would like to see jake hill winning more races and i would like to see sarah moore get a couple of good results seen as she has had an unlucky season so far

Reidy_fan

29th Jul 2010, 03:43 PM

simon, IMO you are as good if not better than Ben, it is clear to any armchair fan that you have a load of passion for motorsport and you can add a bit of exitement to even the most dull of races

perhaps when you are at sillystone look out a pitlane marshal called Lynne (pixie) she and her stuffed marshal mascot Belinda have travelled about 10k miles this year, that is dedication to motorsport. she is also a good mate of mine

simonmhill

29th Jul 2010, 10:54 PM

Reidy Fan - Thanks for your kind words - some people think I'm a bit TOO enthusiastic (especially over Jake....that's my boy see!!!) but racing is my passion - has been since I was about 8 years-old and I guess always will be....Will say Hi to 'Pixie'.....

Take Care (And Thanks Brad too - Tom Howard's joined Tollbar now so you'll have two Wired cars to watch....)

Simon

Daz-NCFC

30th Jul 2010, 02:50 PM

Hi Simon,

Great to see you on the Forum, I'm a massive of Jake's and yourself.

Really pleased with how things are going for you both in the Ginetta Junior's, Its always great racing, the best support race on the Toca package by a country mile.

You add to the excitement of watching the Ginetta Junior's Simon, you are one of the most enthusiastic people in Sport, and its a pleasure to watch. I loved it at Thruxton, you and Jake getting interviewed together. I was also at the circuit that day, It was my 16th Birthday.

I'm going to be coming to Snetterton on both days next weekend, Its my local circuit and a big weekend of Sport for us here in Norfolk. Its Norwich City FC's first match back in the championship at home to Watford on the Friday night, then BTCC Sat and Sunday, I'm going to both those, so its going to be great.

Will come and have a chat with you guys at some point, I did see you last time I was trackside at Rockingham back in April this year, It was early on the Sunday morning, you was on the phone though, and you were dressed up in your ITV gear, and looked busy, so I thought i'd leave you be, but I will find you at Snetterton, I'll do it on the Saturday, as i'm there both days, and you'll be busy with the ITV4 live broadcast on the Sunday.

Good luck with your work as the pit lane reporter on ITV4 for the next 3 rounds, hope it goes well, you did a great job with it at Rockingham, and i'm sure you'll be as good at Snetterton, Silverstone and Knockhill.

Best wishes for Snetterton, Hope it goes well for you and Jake. See you there ;)

Darrell

simonmhill

30th Jul 2010, 11:46 PM

Hi Darrell,

Sorry I was a bit tied up at Rockingham - I had a new sponsor for Jake arriving and was trying to organise things for him....thanks for the kind words of support - glad you think my slightly over enthusiastic ways are ok! Imagine what it would be like if Jake gets into Touring Cars....I'd probably explode!!!

Mate be great to say hello at Snett - I'll be around Sat & Sun but as you rightly pointed out Sunday will be a bit manic - been at Snett today for a General Test - Jake's first time there since Feb last year at the Ginetta Media day - he made his car-racing debut in the Ginetta Junior Winterseries in Nov 08...watched his debut standing next to Damon Hill....it was Josh's first win that day....must be the surname!

Jake and his new team-mate Tom Howard were out and both were quick (no MST timing of course) but we think Jake was quickest (Fannin, Swanwick, Richardson, Bonham and Bailey out too...)....despite Jake spinning in the first session at the Esses and stalling - car wouldn't start - and an un-sighted Tom hit him! Two squashed bonnets (Jake's was patched up - Tom's was f***ed...and Tom did a rad) and some sheepish looks, but I'd rather have it happen today than next week...

Anyway, can't wait till next week - hope we get Sunshine - love Snett as I used to Instruct at the Racing School there in the 90's - always such a cool atmos - did the Night Race in 2000 in the Lotus Sport Elise which was superb....bring back Night Races PLEASE Alan.....!!!

Take Care, thanks again, see you there!

Simon

rev limit

2nd Aug 2010, 06:34 PM

Just cant wait to see you in those high heels Simon! cross dresser eh! seriously,good luck with it all,from one proud Dad to another.cheers good friend.

simonmhill

2nd Aug 2010, 09:37 PM

Mr. H,

Having seen you live on stage - and the talented but 'wrong' bunch of loons that form your band (leading by example) I would've thought that the thought of me quite literally filling Louise's shoes would just get me a job as your new backing singer!

I can't sing - can't play any instruments - don't mind a bit of 'Dad Dancing' but as you know can provide the world with a tsunami of bullshit.....just trainers this weekend - don't even do flip-flops!

See you there you crazy t**t!

Si

603270466

2nd Aug 2010, 09:59 PM

Anything in the pipeline for more Guest drives Simon? you seem chuffed with the 2 Chairmans Cup trophy's at Brands, even though you were the only eligible person for it lol :p Your commentary is mega, you bring fun to commentary, most of the time am having a good chuckle lol.

simonmhill

3rd Aug 2010, 12:34 AM

Yeah was chuffed cos I miss racing myself SO much it was great just to do it and have some fun, so to get a trophy was mega. To be perdantic there were three of us eligable - me, Colin White and Tony Hughes! Nothing in the pipeline guest drives-wise unfortunately, and obviously my main focus is on Jake and trying to get him out. There is a chance that Jake and I may race together in the 1000kms Lotus Elise race at Brands in November...we'll see!

Thanks for the kind words - we try and have some fun - it's a tricky balance to hit - between not being too flippant and having a giggle....there's a few series I commentate on elsewhere and the fans there take it all far too seriously and don't really like me laughing or being too trivial....it's not like TOCA fans who get it - it's like being down the pub watching it with my mates! And that's how it's gonna stay!

Take Care

Simon

simonmhill

3rd Aug 2010, 01:15 AM

Loved racing the G50 - great car, fantastic team, just loved racing properly again after so long....did my last full season in the Lotus Sport Elise's in 2000....and had only done four races up to the G50 in between...meant a lot to get on the podium and do a respectable job, especially on that track in the rain!

And to be picky, there were three of us eligable actually - me, Colin White and Tony Hughes....!

Nothing else on the horizon racing wise - focussing on Jake for obvious reasons - although once he finishes the season he's eligable for a senior licence and we might do the 1000km Lotus Elise race at Brands in November together...give the little git a chance to show me up properly!!!

Glad you enjoy the commentary - there's one series I commentate on where the fans take it WAY too seriously and don't appreciate my slightly more laid back attitude. I absolutely LOVE doing the TOCA supports. I've raced in them myself (FRenault 97, Spiders 98, 99 then Elise in 2000 and briefly 01) and have done it for 7 years now and hopefully my enthusiasm and appreciation for a job well done comes through. I feel like I'm down the pub watching it with my mates commentating for you guys....God imagine if we were p***ed doing it! How much crap would we come out with then?!

Thanks for the kind words, means an awful lot to know you enjoy it.

Take Care

Simon

simonmhill

3rd Aug 2010, 01:20 AM

Sorry guys - didn't mean to reply 'twice' - didn't think the first one had registered! Stick to talking, not writing eh?

Daz-NCFC

3rd Aug 2010, 02:27 PM

Cheers for all these reply's Simon, been great to read your thoughts.

Not long now till the weekend is it, its certainly shaping up to be a cracker!!!!

Just a couple of question's, I see both of the Junior races are on Sunday this weekend, does this mean they will both been shown in the ITV4 show?, I'm going to be at Snetterton, but will record all the TV coverage, and I always love watching the BTCC races and the Junior races back on the tele.

When do you travel to Snetterton?, and will Jake be taking part in the Practice sessions on Friday?

As you have Louise Goodman's Job?, Who has got yours in the commentary box?, I hope its Phil Glew or Rob Huffy, they are great to listen to, like yourself.

Just a few days to go now, then we will be racing!!!

Take Care

Darrell

simonmhill

3rd Aug 2010, 02:57 PM

Darrell,

Jake will be up there Thursday, I can't get there till late Friday nite cos of my 'other' job - have to commentate on the highlights of WRC Finland for Motors (not shown in the UK).

Huffy's doing my job and a fine one I'm sure he'll do as always - think he's at Silverstone too, not sure about Knockhill likely to be Glewy.

Good luck Friday nite - my mate Kev Hayes (Les Hayes' husband) is a big Norwich fan so he'll be there - my team play on Saturday...won't tell you who they are but they are in the Championship...!

Anyway, like you mate, all revved up - hopeful of another weekend just like Croft - see you there!

Simon

Daz-NCFC

3rd Aug 2010, 07:16 PM

Good Stuff Simon.

Pleased Huffy is doing the commentary work on ITV, he's great. Yeah I'd expect he'd be at Silverstone as there is not a WTCC clash, but I think your right about Knockhill, Its BTCC and WTCC on the same day, so Huffy can't do it then, Glewy is great though, had a nice chat with him at Rockingham, Top Guy.

Cheers for the best wishes for Friday, really hope we win, good luck to your team whoever they may be, hopefully not Ipswich.

bradc3

4th Aug 2010, 05:08 PM

Daz-NCFC

4th Aug 2010, 05:38 PM

do you know what the weather will be like on sunday i would love a bit of rain up at snetterton because i havnt seen a junior race in the wet and i think it will be great to watch.
And will Tom Howard have the wired sponsors on his car this weekend

and i hope your a Pompey fan! only team worth watching in championship.

Dry on Saturday, havn't heard a Sunday forecast yet.

Pompey, only team worth watching??, only got 13 First Team players lol.

Championship is great, most unpredictable league in the world.

anyway, roll on Sunday, both Ginetta Junior races in one day. Jake must be happy about that, he's the Sunday king, although he did win on Saturday last time to.

COME ON JAKE!!!

bradc3

4th Aug 2010, 09:20 PM

i just checked its mostly cloudy for sunday but you know weather men arnt allways right...

oh btw simon my dads fav junior drivers are jake hill along with sarah moore
would jake be elligable to drive in the juniors next season or will he be too old?

simonmhill

5th Aug 2010, 10:34 AM

Brad,

Jake could do Juniors again - he's not 17 till Feb 22nd (same birthday as Niki Lauda and Chris Moyles...!) but if things go to plan he will probably do G50's next year or a slim chance of Carerra Cup...

Have had a wet Junior race this year - Brands GP - Jake won from Tom Ingram and David Moore.

It was also damp for the forst race of the year at Thruxton but that wasn't televised.

Jake's headed up to Snett at 7.30 with Motorbase in their Carrera Cup truck so he can help set up with Tollbar, then is there for testing

Fingers crossed for a good one!

Take Care

Simon

scurcic5

5th Aug 2010, 11:35 PM

Small world - I worked at the same company as Terry Fannin years ago. Really nice guy.

simon1220

8th Aug 2010, 10:52 AM

Back to Back Female Champions I hope, always backed Louise Richardson and she is doing well, won first race today, shes in with a good shout!

kezbabybabe

8th Aug 2010, 03:07 PM

Louise had a cracking race this morning, made some awesome moves following the coming together with Swanick.

Shame about Hill's own spin shortly after the start/finish straight.

Reidy_fan

8th Aug 2010, 08:41 PM

good driving from Louise Richardson today, all overtakes were clean plus she certainly knows how to present herself on TV. I am starting to see something in this young lady

good to see jake hill got awarded the win in race 2 after swanwick's rallycross, simon will be happy tonite lol

simon1220

8th Aug 2010, 09:28 PM

Louise is a total star, been doing so well all year but unable to piece it together for a win. She showed good character though, didnt push it for a win, just waited for it to happen and her consistency has been brilliant, which is shown by her taking the championship lead despite winnig only 1 race, ahead of Hill who has won 7! Great performance by Louise and I hope she can go all the way!

team freebie

8th Aug 2010, 09:38 PM

Really pleased to see Louise take a race win, she has been so consistent all season, it would be good to have a girl win the championship for a second year running.

bradc3

9th Aug 2010, 10:06 AM

great weekend for louise but i still think Hill will win the championship
i hope Fannin wins a couple more races he is my outside bet at championship
but i think Hill will win!

And they got to stop people cutting chicanes!!!!

BTCCROCKS

9th Aug 2010, 02:32 PM

bradc3

9th Aug 2010, 02:42 PM

Before Snetterton, I was thinking that either Hill or Ingram would be the champion, but now i'm starting to back Louise Richardson. Only won 1 race, but has been very consistent, which is the key to having a strong season (aswell as winning races)

yeah im supprised how 1 race can change so much in points and its going to go right down to the wire!!! :eek:
All im going to say is dont rule out Fannin yet he is still with a chance

Daz-NCFC

9th Aug 2010, 06:12 PM

I really enjoyed watching the Two Ginetta Junior races at Snetterton yesterday, they were superb entertainment from start to finish.

Awesome job from Louise Richardson in Race 1, after getting knocked off, to come back and win was amazing, Jake Hill unlucky into turn 1 as people have already said.

Sarah Moore's move round the outside of whoever it was after Russell's, was one of the best moves I've ever seen in Motorsport, Well Done Sarah!!!

Race 2 was great to, exciting ending with Jake Hill and Chris Swanwick, clearly Chris Swanwick gained an unfair advantage and Jake Hill should be given the win, he deserved it, outright on the track. Anyone know what the outcome of this was?, didn't get mentioned on the tv coverage I watched back last night after getting home from the track, and I have been checking the official Ginetta Junior website and no mention on there.

Louise Richardson grest podium in 3rd, she had an amazing weekend, all credit to her.

Simon, Really enjoyed your work on the ITV 4 coverage, you were great, your insight and knowledge was super, and your enthusiasm showed even when interviewing the drivers. Great effort. I tried to find you on Saturday and Sunday, but couldn't sadly, there was a guy leaning up against the metal fence at the bottom end of Pit Lane, where martin Johnson's garage was, he had an ITV4 microphone, but it wasn't you. Hope you enjoyed the weekend, I loved it, was great racing. Ginetta Junior's showed why they are the best support race on the grid, amazing.

I hope Jake got awarded the win!!

Best wishes to yourself and Jake!

Fantastic weekend!!

Reidy_fan

9th Aug 2010, 07:35 PM

according to TSL timing Jake got the win, 3 second penalty to swanwick

BTCCROCKS

9th Aug 2010, 09:19 PM

yeah im supprised how 1 race can change so much in points and its going to go right down to the wire!!! :eek:
All im going to say is dont rule out Fannin yet he is still with a chance

Yeah that is true. You never know, if he has a strong showing at Silverstone, he could close the gap, if Hill, Ingram and Richardson have a bad weekend

Stuart Thompson

9th Aug 2010, 09:26 PM

No disrespect to Swanwick but this is the right decision, very suprised the pro am 1 result in the Porsche race 1 wasnt changed after Gilham (incidentally I am cheering for him being a local man) made that move into Russels on the last lap.

simon1220

9th Aug 2010, 10:55 PM

. Anyone know what the outcome of this was?,

Following an investigation by race officials at Snetterton yesterday evening, Jake Hill has been declared the winner of round 12 of the Ginetta Junior Championship.

Hill, who now has won seven times this season, was fighting with Chris Swanwick for the lead of the race when the cars dived into Russell on the ninth and final lap. Swanwick overshot the chicane and missed out the corner for which the Clerk of the Course decided gave him an unfair advantage (under MSA General Regulation C.2.3).

As a result, a penalty of three seconds was added to Swanwick’s race time, which was enough to hand the race win to Jake Hill. Swanwick appealed the decision but the stewards upheld the Clerk of the Course’s decision and the result therefore stands.

This means that Hill now has a two-point advantage over Louise Richardson in the championship heading to Silverstone on August 21/22.

There we go, the right conclusion was made, just to demote Swanwick one place.

kezbabybabe

10th Aug 2010, 07:44 AM

Only outcome they could come out with, when Chris Swanick took to the grass he still had enough time to slow the car and take Russell (Forum) properly and keep 2nd place, as 3rd was a little bit behind.

Shame Louise lost the lead though :p Looking forward to catching up with the racing after Silverstone. :cool:

simonmhill

10th Aug 2010, 10:13 AM

Hi Guys,

Great result for Louise Sunday morning - very pleased as her and her folks are good people.

Very relieved the result was amended in race two as Jake had been behind the game all weekend because his car jammed in 4th gear on the out-lap in testing in Friday and they lost the day - he did exactly what he had to in race two under massive pressure.....all his moves were decisive and fair - and much as I like Chris and his family we all know the rules - if you gain an advantage by cutting the corner you HAVE to give the place back or face a penalty....

It's gonna be interesting for the balance of the year!!!

Might not be able to get on here much for a bit cos I'm away a lot so thanks for the support for Jake (and my ramblings on the telly!) and see you all soon

Simon

allanm

10th Aug 2010, 07:07 PM

think Jake Hill might win it (Simon's celebration if he does win it i'm sure would be priceless!), but i'd also like to see Louise doing well, her drive in the 1st race of the weekend to come back from 4th to win was fantastic

Either way there's some top talent in the juniors this season, whoever wins it will be a deserving winner and i look forward to watching them race for many years to come

scurcic5

11th Aug 2010, 03:28 PM

Jake looks to have the makings of a future star to me. Maybe needs to be slightly less aggressive at times, but certainly has a lot of talent.

I thought Louise thoroughly deserved her win in the first race, although she benefitted from Jody's lack of experience. I doubt he'll be as easy to coerce into out-braking himself next time.

bradc3

11th Aug 2010, 09:23 PM

yeah i agree either way the top 6 guys in my opinion
Jake Hill
Jody Fannin
Louise Richardson
Tom Ingram
Sarah Moore
Alex Austin
will do great in future series i would love to see theese guys in touring cars in a couple years

bradc3

22nd Aug 2010, 08:21 PM

****** hell that race today was fantastic action at every bend shame about HILL but what Swanick did was bang out of order great win by Ingram shame about Fannin and Richardson i loved seeing Sarah moore battleing today she made some good overtakes
my money is still with Hill

Shortride

22nd Aug 2010, 09:08 PM

Man these peeps were crazy today! Best race of the day!

Pato

22nd Aug 2010, 09:22 PM

Swanwick should be banned, that was one of the most dangerous drives I've ever seen in motorsport. He was actually trying as hard as he could to cause crashes and he did in the end. He should have been black flagged.

Eunos

22nd Aug 2010, 10:23 PM

Im not usually one to complain about Driving Standeds..

But Swanicks Driving was the most Moronic i've ever seen, We were very lucky nobody was seriously hurt....

I hope the Stewards had a good go at him..

mattlovestbs

23rd Aug 2010, 11:51 AM

I didn't see Swanwick's incident - what happened?

bradc3

23rd Aug 2010, 01:13 PM

i heard on facebook that he got ddisqualified and he got 2 points on his liscence
i will try and find a link matt

mattlovestbs

23rd Aug 2010, 01:42 PM

He has been dsq - thats on TSL, amended round 14 result

wvm

23rd Aug 2010, 03:06 PM

i heard on facebook that he got ddisqualified and he got 2 points on his liscence
i will try and find a link matt

Six points on his licence I heard, and 30 championship points taken away.

mattlovestbs

23rd Aug 2010, 04:42 PM

Six points on his licence I heard, and 30 championship points taken away.

Ouch - that'll be painful

amby

23rd Aug 2010, 11:12 PM

fair play the race of the day for me the juniors
what great talnet for the future:cool:

simon1220

23rd Aug 2010, 11:28 PM

Ginetta Juniors once again providing the two best races of the weekend! Such brilliant racing, action packed, full of overtaking ... and the odd bit of controversy. I look forward to their races more than the BTCC ones :)

kezbabybabe

24th Aug 2010, 08:11 AM

That race on Sunday wasn't very good standard for the Juniors, they've been so much better in the past.

Remind me of the clios a few years back, I expect they will be getting a bit of a drivers briefing about that...

Reidy_fan

24th Aug 2010, 08:31 AM

aye methinks the drivers had better start putting a phone book in their ovies for when the clerk has a quiet word at knockie

Ogami

24th Aug 2010, 09:29 AM

He has been dsq - thats on TSL, amended round 14 result

Swanwick's antics were what I'd call 'Playstation manoeuvres'. You know what I mean, trying to edge the other car into the wall, as you do when you play computer games. 3 times I counted him doing that at Woodcote. I was surprised he didn't get black flagged.

And I thought Richardson recovered amazingly well when she got hit during the Fanin incident.

P

bradc3

24th Aug 2010, 02:07 PM

yeah the races are great much better then that porsche rubbish where you know there going to be boring races with more aless the same person winning each time

tbh if anybody acted like he did then he shoud of got black flagged these people are only young and he might be a rich person that can afford to fix up his car but other people might not have that sort of money it was bang out of order

nicemms91

26th Aug 2010, 09:36 PM

I think what might be happening is that the Junior drivers are seeing what the BTCC drivers and copying because it seems like they, the BTCC drivers, are getting away with it so they think its ok for them to do it too.

DanB66

27th Aug 2010, 02:08 AM

Over the course of this year Chris Swanwick has had 55 points deducted!

http://www.ginetta.com/championship_tables.php?id=1

bradc3

27th Aug 2010, 11:34 AM

seems like a fair punishment does anybody know why jake got points deducted earlier in the year

mattlovestbs

29th Aug 2010, 05:07 PM

seems like a fair punishment does anybody know why jake got points deducted earlier in the year

Hill?

Contact with Sarah at Brands

Eunos

29th Aug 2010, 07:14 PM

Swanwick's antics were what I'd call 'Playstation manoeuvres'. You know what I mean, trying to edge the other car into the wall, as you do when you play computer games. 3 times I counted him doing that at Woodcote. I was surprised he didn't get black flagged.

I like that description :D
-----------------------------

IMHO the Penalty is well and truly deserved, He put alot off Drivers in real danger with his antiques, What if somebody had been seriously hurt or god forbid Killed?

none the less i hope this is the last time we see this type off driving from him, His lucky not to get banned

(On a slightly off topic note: Another Person from Gillingham Kent :cool:)

Reidy_fan

29th Aug 2010, 07:27 PM

tell you something folks, I am seriously worried about the races at the hill, if the kids dont calm down a bit and try to race cleanly there will be carnage, the hill is a very unforgiving track, drive like a clown and the track will bite you. It is safe but go sideways at duffus onto the grass/gravel and you will dig in and go on your roof, outbrake yourself at mcintyres and you go straight on into the tyres, try going 2 wide at chicane and you will have contact and both of you will be in the tyres.

if any drivers/crew/family read this then please please cool it and stay safe

simon1220

29th Aug 2010, 07:46 PM

Im sure the drivers will just approach Knockhill like they do every other track, all tracks are dangerous and Knockhill isnt special to any other. No driver will be going in aiming to cause accidents, if they happen, they happen.

bradc3

30th Aug 2010, 03:57 PM

There Attitude will be like we cant back down there two much at stake and i will expect a lot of crashes this track is tighter so i will expect loads

simon1220

30th Aug 2010, 04:19 PM

There Attitude will be like we cant back down there two much at stake and i will expect a lot of crashes this track is tighter so i will expect loads

Or there attitude might just as much be "well theres so much stake, i better back off and lose one place, rather than crash out and get no points at all"

kezbabybabe

30th Aug 2010, 06:43 PM

This is the worse race they've had this season, so I would expect them to fully behave at Knockhill, they will get a good drivers briefing before hand.

Ogami

30th Aug 2010, 06:55 PM

tell you something folks, I am seriously worried about the races at the hill, if the kids dont calm down a bit and try to race cleanly there will be carnage,

Reidy_fan, who was the unfortunate marshall who had to deal with Sarah Moore in the 3rd race at Knockhill last year? She threw an understandable tantrum when (I think) Hill pushed her off just after the hairpin. Did she stamp her feet or what .....

P

wvm

2nd Sep 2010, 09:14 PM

Reidy_fan, who was the unfortunate marshall who had to deal with Sarah Moore in the 3rd race at Knockhill last year? She threw an understandable tantrum when (I think) Hill pushed her off just after the hairpin. Did she stamp her feet or what .....

P

It wasn't Hill - he missed Knockhill last year.

simon1220

3rd Sep 2010, 11:26 PM

With all the focus on Richardson/Hill before Silverstone, Ingram snuck in to take the lead, and is repeating the trick at Knockhill, fastest in both the practice sessions today :)

bradc3

4th Sep 2010, 02:18 PM

With all the focus on Richardson/Hill before Silverstone, Ingram snuck in to take the lead, and is repeating the trick at Knockhill, fastest in both the practice sessions today :)

your right
i think its all about who gets the starts this weekend because if its going to like last week only person who avoided getting involved was tom ingram

bradc3

4th Sep 2010, 06:29 PM

Tom Ingram on pole for race 1 and 2

bradc3

5th Sep 2010, 07:31 PM

simon1220

5th Sep 2010, 08:57 PM

Tom Ingram winning twice this weekend looks like its going to be tough for the rest of the field to catch him but its not over
and simon you were right it was much cleaner then last time but that just might be the fact that swanick wernt driving

Swanwick didnt cause all the incidents at Silverstone, the whole field got a bit OTT last time out. Havent seen the races from Knock yet, but good to hear driving standards were improved.

DickW

6th Sep 2010, 10:14 PM

So what happened to Louise Richardson in the first juniors race?

simon1220

6th Sep 2010, 10:17 PM

So what happened to Louise Richardson in the first juniors race?

Contact with Adam Bonham at Clark's. The pair were running side by side, contact sent Richardson spinning across the front of Bonham’s car and off onto the grass, dropping her to the back of the pack.

DickW

6th Sep 2010, 10:54 PM

Contact with Adam Bonham at Clark's. The pair were running side by side, contact sent Richardson spinning across the front of Bonham’s car and off onto the grass, dropping her to the back of the pack.

Thanks..... Pity though.

simon1220

7th Sep 2010, 01:13 AM

Thanks..... Pity though.

Its a real shame, was hoping to see the championship go down to the wire, with all three in contention, but got a feeling either Hill or Richardson will drop out of contention at Donnington, with Ingram either taking the title there, or in the first race at Brands.

GlenW

8th Sep 2010, 04:31 PM

Swanwick didnt cause all the incidents at Silverstone

No, but he caused enough of them to get suspended for Knockhill!

simon1220

9th Sep 2010, 01:10 AM

No, but he caused enough of them to get suspended for Knockhill!

Yeah, im not saying he didnt do anything, just defending him from people saying he did it all.

Reidy_fan

9th Sep 2010, 10:47 AM

a lovely lady (jake gidding's mum actually) told me at Knockhill that the clerks gave all the drivers a few strong words before KH practice and that if anyone thought about doing anything like what happened at sillystone they wouldnt drive again this season and basically if you want to drive like a banger racer then shut the gate on the way out

one thing that really surprised me about the jnrs is that they dont have a area at the tracks for all the family to watch from and have a liason officer so that if one of the kids have a incident they get taken care of. basically the parents have to find their own way to the med centre

BTCCROCKS

10th Sep 2010, 01:18 AM

For me, I would say that Ingram will win the title this year. He keeps his cool all the time

legrant

20th Sep 2010, 05:46 PM

Love the discussion. I'm on of those fans that doesn't mind who wins, it's just lovely to see some great racing!

bradc3

24th Sep 2010, 11:28 AM

Can anybody tell me last weekends results as I was away and missed the rounds
Cheers

simonmhill

24th Sep 2010, 12:10 PM

Can anybody tell me last weekends results as I was away and missed the rounds
Cheers

Jake Hill was fastest from Tom Howard in testing...Louise was fastest in free practice on Saturday....Tom Ingram took both Poles from Seb Morris and the Moores as it was damp...Jake Hill 5th & 8th on the grid, Louise 12th & 16th after an off. Race one - Ingram led but after a Safety Car Jake Hill was up to second, got past, pulled away and Won from Sarah and Dvid Moore - Ingram dropped back with an electrical problem but recovered to 4th. Race two Ingram led away but Jake worked his way from 8th on the grid up to 2nd in two laps, passed him at Redgate and pulled away. A late Safety Car closed it up, but Jake Won from Tom and Seb Morris' first podium. Louise was penalised for contact with Tom Howard and classified 8th. Jake got the Lap Record. Points now it's between Tom and Jake - Tom leads by 42 Points but there are still a max 74 on offer and it's Brands which is Jake's favourite track so ANYTHING can happen!!! Hope that helps! Simon

bradc3

25th Sep 2010, 01:25 PM

That's ace I can't wait for brands sounds like it is gunna be very good racing great to see the moores doing well and seb getting first podium

Les

26th Sep 2010, 09:56 PM

all I know is I am going to be a nervous wreck :eek:

bradc3

28th Sep 2010, 04:35 PM

if the penalty hadnt been put on jake it would have been so close i still think jake will win the championship but its going to be so close

bradc3

8th Oct 2010, 08:29 PM

Ingram on pole for tommorow with team mate seb morris 2nd

simon1220

8th Oct 2010, 09:43 PM

Ingram on pole for tommorow with team mate seb morris 2nd

Ermm ... no? Ingram was quickest in FREE PRACTICE 1. Qualifying is tomorrow.

simonmhill

8th Oct 2010, 10:59 PM

Ingram on pole for tommorow with team mate seb morris 2nd

Not quite, only free practice today, you were looking at the times from the morning session which were drying hence a bit less representative....In the afternoon session Jake was fastest by 0.014 from Ingram...free practice tomorrow at 9am, then qually, race at 17.10....follow all the races and BTCC qually live on ITV.COM tomorrow from 3pm...then from 10.30am onSunday on ITV4....

Les

9th Oct 2010, 05:45 AM

I feel sick already.... go Jakey :)

Daz-NCFC

9th Oct 2010, 08:17 AM

Looking forward to the final weekend of Ginetta Junior's. Hope we get two absolute crackers as always.

Best Wishes, to Ingram, Hill, Richardson and the rest just fighting for wins, going to be a belter!!!

and we can see both races live with today's online and tomorrow's on ITV4.

bradc3

9th Oct 2010, 12:54 PM

sorry i got that wrong louise richardson has got 2 poles
remeber 3:30 btcc website for ginetta race 1 guys

mattlovestbs

9th Oct 2010, 05:22 PM

I'm seriously gutted for Jake - he had to go for it though. Congratulations to Tom though

Daz-NCFC

9th Oct 2010, 06:14 PM

Really enjoyed being able to watch the race live on the net today, It was great.

So sorry for Jake, he has been a class act all year, and I even had my head in my hands when he went off. So unfortunate for him and Dad Simon, who has given him so much support this season as ever. No doubt they will be back fighting again tomorrow though, really hope Jake wins tomorrow's race.

Well Done to Tom Ingram on winning the title, super season for him, top guy.

Louise Richardson, fantastic win for her, she has really impressed me all year and its great when she wins, Sarah got 3rd place to, great work girls :D

Hoping tomorrow's race is a belter :cool:

bradc3

9th Oct 2010, 08:22 PM

i thourght today was great and personally i think they should scrap porche carrera cup gb and put both ginetta junior races on sunday
what stumped me today was why jake tried to go round the outside round turn 1 i think he would have had louise at the 2nd turn either way it has been a great season through out the juniors except the silverstone round because of a certain chris swanick but either way its been a great season and i just wish they never put the points penalty on jake for the collision with moore it would have pushed it to the last race

Les

10th Oct 2010, 09:56 PM

because that was the best opportunity I reckon. He had to try and catch her napping because she defends very well - just gutted it didn't work.

But he saved the day today and drove a lovely race to clinch 2nd in the championship. So so proud of him and of everyone who helped to get him out this weekend. :)

simon1220

10th Oct 2010, 11:57 PM

As soon as safety car pulled in, we knew Hill would go for it, was unfortunately clear what was going to happen. Cold tyres, was too ambitious with the move and it went wrong. But in the end it was all or nothing ... and a lot of time in Motorsport, it comes to nothing.

A great battle though, Ingram is a well deserved winner, so well done to him. Also good on the girls for their performances over the weekend, good to see Sarah back on the podium, has been too long!

scurcic5

11th Oct 2010, 10:26 AM

Yeah, it was a gutsy move from Jake but maybe a little too gutsy with cold tyres. One for the experience box, I think. I felt sorry for Louise yesterday - Although her angry ranting at Clark was quite amusing to the casual observer - She was obviously a bit upset.

I'm hoping we see a few of these guys that are "too old" in the G50's (or will it be G55?) next year. I know that's what Jody is going for if he can get the funds together... cracking rookie season from him :)

Reidy_fan

11th Oct 2010, 07:41 PM

okay got to post this but saw Louise's mum on the TV coverage, she is one very attractive lady :o:cool:

DickW

12th Oct 2010, 10:43 AM

okay got to post this but saw Louise's mum on the TV coverage, she is one very attractive lady :o:cool:

Behave yourself :D

Reidy_fan

12th Oct 2010, 10:51 AM

oi if the youngsters on the forum can drool over the young female drivers then us aulder yins can eye up the mum's:p:p:p

and having met a few at KH there is rather a lot to eye up;)

scott_240192

12th Oct 2010, 02:48 PM

oi if the youngsters on the forum can drool over the young female drivers then us aulder yins can eye up the mum's:p:p:p

and having met a few at KH there is rather a lot to eye up;)

lol inside your still 18

simon1220

12th Oct 2010, 04:55 PM

oi if the youngsters on the forum can drool over the young female drivers

Oh i do :D though not those too young haha!

bradc3

12th Oct 2010, 10:17 PM

Lol louise is very pretty indeed I must of not seen her mum on telly

scott_240192

12th Oct 2010, 11:02 PM

As long as i can have louise that would make my life lol shes a real nice looking girl so she is

simonmhill

20th Oct 2010, 10:25 PM

Hello all!

Just wanted to say a big 'THANKS' to everyone who has supported Jake this year. We have struggled like crazy just to get out racing each meeting - it's been down to the team - thanks Mike at Tollbar - and lots of wonderful people who have believed in Jake's ability. Jake Won 10 of 20 races, 8 Poles and 9 Fastest laps...and his 'career' total is 13 Wins, 13 Poles and 14 Fastest Laps...all records in Ginetta Juniors, so it hasn't been bad!

I know from the comments that a few people have thought Jake a little full-on - he's actually quite uncomfortable doing interviews so sometimes comes across akwardly.

Considering how gobby his Dad his you'd think he'd be mega at it wouldn't you!?

Anyway, well done to Tom Ingram and Hillspeed for Winning the Championship - a great job by all concerned - and a massive thanks to all who have helped Jake in every way.

He will be back....!

Thanks to every fan, every Marshal, every official, sponsor and competitor.

See you soon

Simon